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retiredaccount wrote

They're more trustworthy than the average ISP (I use free ProtonVPN for that reason) or Gmail, but obviously not the best.

For an easy-to-get email, I recommend tutanota.

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mike425 wrote

I use paid protonmail, and don't understand what prompted you to ask this question.

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sand wrote

requires javascript, can't use POP (or IMAP?) without their program also running, can't sign up properly via the onion address iirc. overall seems sketchy

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mike425 wrote

I'm more attracted by Swiss privacy laws.
I don't feel comfortable using any email service that can be compelled to turn over all of my communications without so much as a rubber stamp on a court order. Even with ProtonMail's 4mbit encryption, if you're a big enough blip on a TLA's radar, there are other means to compromise both you and your otherwise secure endpoint, making the layers of crypto rather pointless.

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quandyalaterreux wrote

If you want privacy use the Tor Browser. If you want fake privacy then use anything else, it's that damn simple.

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Rosechild wrote

The tor browser isant invincible, just better then nothing

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quandyalaterreux wrote

The tor browser isant invincible, just better then nothing

No piece of software is, but the Tor Browser is still the only privacy by design solution to surfing the clearweb.

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quandyalaterreux wrote

Surfing yes. Checking e-mail, no. They even talk about this in their docs. If you use an account that is tied to you you aren't getting the same kind of protection that TOR was designed for.

You can sign-up using the Tor Browser with a web email service that allows Tor (such as tutanota.com) and hence your identity won't be tied to that email (unless you leave personally identifiable information, email is unencrypted by default so don't forget about that).

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quandyalaterreux wrote

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If you use TOR browser with gmail that is exactly as private as using gmail without the TOR browser.

Even in such scenario you get more privacy since your ISP won't know that you accessed such website at such time...

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quandyalaterreux wrote (edited )

How much more? Your ISP won't know that you visited gmail but if you are using https then the local ISP would not know your account name anyway. And if you are not using https then the exit node would know your account name and that is a lot less private.

The Tor Browser includes HTTPS Everywhere and in fact gmail is preloaded in the HSTS preload list so HTTPS should be forced. In the first case the ISP will know that you visited gmail, whereas in the second the ISP won't know that - which is a net gain in privacy terms.