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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

What does it mean that they aren't banning Signal? I think they banned Telegram in Russia also.


surreal wrote

They will probably do. If the law bans the Telegram app by name, i dont think law makers have any idea how any of this work. I expect new apps coming up with the same codebase and just different names or servers just to bypass the laws. That's until they come up with an all inclusive law prohibiting end to end encrypted comms and such.


An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Iranian officials have been encouraging Iranians to use domestic alternatives to Telegram. The Soroush app was released last month offering most of Telegram’s features. But many Iranians are reluctant to use domestic apps, fearing they could be used by security services to spy on them.

The Soroush app features female emojis, covered with conservative black Islamic headscarves and carrying signs saying “Death to America” and “Death to Israel”.

A lot to unpack here, but every time some state has a state-approved messaging app (here's looking at you, WeChat), you have to know there's a goddamn backdoor.


throwaway38yyzew wrote

No, the problem with Signal is that it's actually Google that blocks traffic from Iran, hence the domain fronting that was put up that relied on as a front didn't work in it, all of this because of some fetishist interpretation of US law (necessary “Death to America” vow here),

Direct access to Signal has also been blocked in Iran for the past 3+ years, but it was not possible to use the same domain fronting technique there. In an apparently unique interpretation of US sanction law, Google does not allow any requests from Iran to be processed by Google App Engine. Requests would get past Iranian censors, but then Google themselves would block them.

In early 2018, a number of policy organizations increased pressure on Google to change their position on how they were interpreting US sanction law so that domain fronting would be possible from Iran. Sadly, these lobbying efforts seem to have had the opposite effect. When Google’s leadership became more aware of domain fronting, it generated internal conversations about whether they wanted to put themselves in the situation of providing cover for sites that entire countries wished to block.

A month later, we received 30-day advance notice from Google that they would be making internal changes to stop domain fronting from working entirely.