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zoom_zip wrote

And what can we do to stop our conversations being spied on ?

don’t have a phone

have a dumb phone

if you have a smartphone keep it in a faraday cage

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disabled_larper wrote (edited )

don’t have a phone have a dumb phone

Dumbphones have very rare legitimate use cases. Generally speaking they are actually worse than smartphones. You’d be unable to use anonymous VoIP numbers, unable to have any acceptably secure communications, etc. These are essential for having some privacy when using phones.

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zoom_zip wrote

you have to trust the phone at an operating system level. if you can’t do that, then it doesn’t matter what privacy tools you install.

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nulloperation wrote

Put LineageOS or PostmarketOS on it.

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throwaway wrote (edited )

Make sure not to install google apps when using LineageOS.

...and if you prefer a smartphone being smart, don't install PostmarketOS just yet.

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disabled_larper wrote

Lineage and Postmarket seem to be pretty terrible. They might be good for tinkering and customization, but not for security.

I’d only recommend GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, or iOS.

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whipskid wrote

These are some nice custom roms. Don't install G-apps that's the spyware stuff obviously. Google makes it hard to have a fully-featured working AOSP phone by making a lot of things depend on G-apps so we've created MicroG as a free alternative to G-apps to get some of the tough stuff working like GPS services and push notifications.

De-googling Android is a challenge that's why projects like Librem 5 and Pinephone are important. De-googling is worth it though. There are a lot of useful Android apps that respect your freedom and some custom ROM projects are working to make the OS more secure.

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disabled_larper wrote (edited )

De-googling Android is a challenge that's why projects like Librem 5 and Pinephone are important.

Linux phones are… not great to say the least. But afaik GrapheneOS is completely de-gooogled and looks like a far better alternative in terms of privacy and also usability. Just about every other ROM I’ve found (except maybe Calyx) has issues with security as well.

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