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another_i wrote

I wouldn't get hyped, but it would be my choice for a daily driver over, say Waterfox.

The ad rev model is pretty ingenuous, given that it is opt-in and incentives the end-user. If ya gotta fund development in a capitalist society, its a pretty reasonable solution.

AFAIK, the only telemetry data is for updates.

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vaoij wrote

Their rev model is pretty messed up, taking donations on behalf of others.

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another_i wrote

I am by no means an apologist for Brave, but the article you referenced is 18 months old, which is a fairly long time relative to the overall development cycles of Brave. I think their "business model" has matured in that time.

In that time, I also recall a time when Brave was caught sending more telemetry data than what was palatable by most privacy researchers. I think the upstream Chromium project at one point also had telemetry data going back to Google. It was those reports that pushed me towards Waterfox for some time.

I couldn't find any articles that reference my memory though, in fact most assessments are about how Brave is the most privacy respecting browser there is.

Its also worth noting that Brendan Eich is the founder of Brave. He was the founder of Mozilla, and the creator of JS. Both pretty notable OSS projects. As a programmer, I think he's made some excellent design and licensing choices. As a person, he has disappointing history of financially supporting homophobic laws.

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vaoij wrote

the article you referenced is 18 months old, which is a fairly long time relative to the overall development cycles of Brave.

Just in case, here's some more recent sketchiness.

Brave is the most privacy respecting browser there is.

Well, perhaps if we ignore the existence of Tor Browser, GNU Icecat, qutebrowser, Netsurf, Lynx, eww and the like. Not arguing that those are all "better" than Brave but it'd be hard to argue that Brave is more privacy respecting than any of those.

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another_i wrote

Well, perhaps if we ignore the existence of Tor Browser, GNU Icecat, qutebrowser, Netsurf, Lynx, eww and the like.

Totally... I was just relaying a generalization from the assessments from a handful of industry articles.

Just in case, here's some more recent sketchiness.

I mean, let's be real, all of the crypto world is either resource extraction abstracted by energy consumption or its a capitalistic game of musical chairs. Either way, someone is getting fucked.

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dred wrote

Obligatory https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html / http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ghost/browsers.html

Safe is subjective, I wouldn't use Brave over Firefox with some tweaks and add-ons. They have whitelists for trackers and just change normal ads for their own ads. If you want to be safe, Tor will always be the best not only due to the Tor Network, but also because of the countless patches they have to improve security.

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