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ChaosBomb wrote

Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation.

Political quizzes always trying to railroad me into either supporting state action or unfettered corporatism.

No, they both require destruction, stop putting me into this binary that exists only for liberals.

Economic Left/Right: -2.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92

Too many questions rested on compromising on things that don't really require compromise outside of a liberal statist mindset. As for the chart, putting egoists as economically right and anprims on the economic left makes no sense; neither would believe in money, economics doesn't really fit with either.

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MHC OP wrote

Anarchist quizzes had few questions and seemed poorly written.

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ChaosBomb wrote (edited )

Anarchists know where they stand on several issues, generally speaking.

seemed poorly written.

At least the Political Compass quiz seems reliable.

I chose the same answers that I did before, except I chose "Strongly Agree" with the racial supremacy question and that just flung me from anprim to the border between anarcho-collectivism/syndicalism and Mutualism; I doubt you can get any worse.

And please stop saying Egoists are to your right while calling yourself a classical liberal of all things; especially when Classical Liberals believe in property laws and national defense/borders while Egoists don't.

You can dislike Egoists all you want, but you can't call yourself a Classical Liberal while calling Egoists right-wing and expect anyone here to take you seriously. I can refute that claim with the statement "Classical Liberals were the ones who killed the natives and enslaved my ancestors in order to make America."

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MHC OP wrote

The political compass quiz must be sensitive to the anwers you supply it! I just put what I scored. Results move around from time to time, as you found. I don't expect anything much. Political compass distinguishes between right and libertarian scales. The British empire was forged by the gattling gun!

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ChaosBomb wrote

The political compass quiz must be sensitive to the anwers you supply it! I just put what I scored

You also ID as a Classical Liberal and I can only assume that you did based on this. Political ideologies come with a set of beliefs that make them different from others, many of which are so integral towards the ideology that removing that belief can make a different ideology. The political compass test just tells you where you lie on the (flawed) political compass, it doesn't actually inform the specifics of your beliefs like an ideological label would.

This is a very strange and inaccurate way to go about finding your political beliefs. Unless this is some sort of jape on your part, in that case, just ignore me.

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MHC OP wrote

I find plenty strange and inaccurate about anarchists!

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ChaosBomb wrote

Yeah, you and a solid 99% of the human population.

Feel free to give voice to these findings at anytime.

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MHC OP wrote

It might help to explain what you're into. In what way do you feel different? Were there any formative experiences that led you to where you're at?

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ChaosBomb wrote

It might help to explain what you're into.

Into what? Also, Me or anarchists in general?

In what way do you feel different?

Anarchists are generally united under the singular goal of destroying the world (as we know it); the details of which (how much to destroy and what the world would ideally look like) varies among the various strains; but we generally agree that Capitalism, the state, and the nation should be erased along with inequalities born from them. This makes us the opposition to some +6 billion human beings who don't want that.

Were there any formative experiences that led you to where you're at?

Yes. Quite a few actually.

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MHC OP wrote

What are absurdism and nihilism for you? What do you dislike about social structure? Please explain that life experience to someone of a different culture.

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ChaosBomb wrote

What are absurdism and nihilism for you?

Absurdism just the existential philosophy that pertains to being aware of one's recurring desire to find any inherent meaning or value in life/existence and the inability to actually find it, because the absurdist has reached the conclusion that such meaning or value does not exist. Nihilism is merely the lack of belief or faith in something; it's a catch all term, but one could be nihilistic about different things: someone could easily be political nihilist but not a moral nihilist, for example.

What do you dislike about social structure?

If I wrote down everything I dislike about social structure, I'd be writing a book, but the biggest factor is the inability to truly escape it: industrial civilization has grown and consumed so much that even people who live independent of it will be forced into suffering under the ecological consequences that mass industry causes. If you're born under it, you must participate in it before you can escape: years of schooling and working are bare minimum requirements if you want the state to leave you alone. You have to have money to buy land, materials for shelter, and you need to learn skills that are no longer common knowledge because society in its current form has more use for someone who knows how to operate a computer than for someone who knows how to grow food. It's a structure that forces dependence and conformity and regularly punishes those who fail to match up to its standards.

Please explain that life experience to someone of a different culture.

It would better to instead relay my perspective through a common experience. You are also autistic, so I assume that you are aware of how frustrating and confusing allistic people can be; since most people with some form of authority are allistic, you've probably lived under their thumb and their arbitrary judgments; my frustration with social structure is similar to my frustration with social norms (especially since the former creates and enforces the latter); I have no reason to like any social structure and all of the justifications that I've heard didn't hold up to my scrutiny, so I want to make it go away.

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MHC OP wrote (edited )

The quantum scale is a froth of existence <-> nonexistence. And a stock market index takes a random walk. Thus divine purpose is false!

Following abuse at work, I lost faith in authority.

In Al Khobar, the council had planted shrubs and put metal cages over them. Then I saw the local Arabs taking off the cages and setting goats to graze upon the shrubbery! So causing the suffering of ecological consequences--does not require mass industry!

Indeed coping with neurotypical preferences, is the bane of my life! When a Big Boss discarded my month's work--a psychologist advised me that all I could expect from work, was getting paid.

I have found social structure to be a minefield, to which hazards I am mostly blind. Following yet another botched encounter, I require much time working out what had gone wrong! Yet folk demand I be fluently cluey, on the fly.

Social norms are foreign language to me.

People want lots of things to go away. A technophobic friend wishes he were decades earlier!

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ShadesPath wrote

Stirner is an AnCap now?

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Kinshavo wrote

This compass is actualy a view from the center, liberal center If I may say. This just doesn't make sense.

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ruin wrote

Like the other commenter mentioned, the economic questions are all framed as free market vs state control. This means blowing the whole thing up isn’t an option.

A lot of anarchists and leftists use the same framing to call individualists fascist or right wing. This completely ignores that capitalism in its current guise is the antithesis of free markets and relies on state violence to enforce its legitimacy and even the definition of the freedom it claims to be built upon.

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MHC OP wrote

The egoists are to my right. I can't handle their ableism!

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zoom_zip wrote

it put me to the right of ancom just touching up on collectivist, but i struggled with the questions that were basically GOVERNMENT vs CORPORATION because both of them can bite me.

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Kinshavo wrote

Economic Left/Right: -7.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.97

From this ideological chart I landed on the Collectivist AnPrim border. Can I get my Antifa membership card back?

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MHC OP wrote

I'm glad that the replies have been to the left of "a life not worth living" ableist!

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Vulgar_Soda wrote (edited )

lol Garbage thread, MHC. I had to double check this wasn't posted under memer. Online quizzes reveal nothing about yourself to yourself. The political compass quiz only tells you what other people think you should think (on top of the complimentary data harvesting). Here, have an arbitrary binary choice devoid of context. Choose between unfettered children murdering or the "common sense" regulation of children murdering by the state.

How about we don't murder children?

Horribly reductive analogies aside, I will never understand the need to have a label imposed on from the outside, from a quiz or otherwise. Choosing a political ideology from a list is akin to choosing between Harry Potter houses or deciding which Myers-Briggs category best suits your boring personality. I choose to think outside of such a narrow worldview.

I got sorted into Slytherin, by the way.
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MHC OP wrote

Well, there's been plenty of discussion, which is good!

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Vulgar_Soda wrote

That's fair. I think I get carried away with my posts sometimes, I forget I'm dealing with real people. Hope you're having a swell day.

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MHC OP wrote

Anarchists seem prickly, throwing tantrums at every perceived slight and revealed dislike!

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MHC OP wrote

At least the Political Compass quiz seems reliable.

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