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ziq wrote

The protests from the pro-Spain bootlickers yesterday made me see more than ever that independence would be a big step up for the workers. Autonomy from external powers is important and it can only help a future drive back to anarchism.

The smaller the ruler's reach, the easier they'll be to topple.

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ziq wrote

He just declared Catalonia has earned the right to be come independent.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Yeah, I spoke too soon.

He says:

"I want to follow people’s will for Catalonia to become an independent state."

The parliament erupts with applause. But then he says the government wants to delay any formal declaration. He continues:

"We propose to suspend the effect of the independence declaration... in order to work towards putting into practice the result of the referendum... Today, we are making a gesture of responsibility in favour of dialogue."

Cop out.

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Xesau wrote

If the dialogue works out and Catalonia becomes independent through negotiations, then mission accomplished, or at least a great step towards it. If dialogue doesn't work out, they can always suspend the dialogue and declare themselves independent anyway.

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ziq wrote

Dialogue won't work, the Spanish state made that clear when they beat hundreds of people up for trying to cast a vote.

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DissidentRage wrote

Par for the course with ring-wingers. It's always their way or compromise so that they still get their way eventually.

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boringskip wrote

Am I the only one who doesn't really care about this?

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DissidentRage wrote (edited )

Things that happen in countries that aren't yours are still important. If you're in the EU this should be seen as something important since it sets a precedent for what can happen to member states under the thumb of Germany's austerity measures.

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zod wrote (edited )

I think anything that makes a state throw a bratty tantrum is mighty entertaining.

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ziq wrote

They're delaying the announcement by an hour for some reason.