Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

shanc wrote (edited )

I diverge with him mostly on this new 'world building' habit he's picked up. For someone who used to be against this kind of thing, he now spends a lot of time imagining fantasy future scenarios and toying with how best to deal with this or that problem. I find those conversations tedious.

him being willing for there to be racist bolos / racist decentralised societies seemed to be very friendly to a kind of national-anarchist view

I didn't hear that at all. I heard him say that there'd always be racists and that there's no way of dealing with them that isn't authoritarian. I don't really have any thoughts of this because, again, it's a scenario that only exists in his imagination. The real life white supremacist communities you're talking about are something else and I'd be very interested to talk about them and how to deal with them but that's a different conversation.

if the world was radically decentralised that race wouldn't exist so this would be largely a non-issue,

He seemed to think this wouldn't be the case at all. Personally, I'm undecided - it's not something I think about often because it's straying into 'what if?' territory, which I associate with 'After The Revolution' fantastical thinking.

He went out of his way to say that he thinks biological sex exists, which I assume is shorthand for saying that he thinks that binary biological sex is real

I didn't hear it as that, but if that's what he meant, then yeah that's shitty.

in an anarchist society everyone will be queer is hard to read outside of a kind of queerphobia and an active avoidance of understanding queerness differently.

The exact same joke (which is what I heard it as) is in one of the Baedan journals, which I'm guessing is where he got it from.

His whole repeated 'joke' about being a paradigm of reason give a sense of a kind of superiority complex and a resentment, which is a shame to see.

Wasn't that Aragorn's joke that he kept repeating back? idk, their sense of humour is kind of weird to me as someone who isn't from NA, but I never for a moment thought that he was actually saying he was a paradigm of reason.

Thanks for your reply. There's an Oak Journal podcast with Bellamy recorded around the same time as this one that you might be interested in.

1

[deleted] wrote (edited )

1

An_Old_Big_Tree OP admin wrote

I'm going to go ahead and delete whole accounts created just to fight with people, like this.

2

An_Old_Big_Tree OP wrote

if the world was radically decentralised that race wouldn't exist so this would be largely a non-issue,

He seemed to think this wouldn't be the case at all. Personally, I'm undecided - it's not something I think about often because it's straying into 'what if?' territory, which I associate with 'After The Revolution' fantastical thinking.

Perhaps with time you will come to understand my anarchism more and notice how what I thought has nothing to do with 'after the revolution' thinking. Unfortunately I don't have the energy to explain it at the moment.

in an anarchist society everyone will be queer is hard to read outside of a kind of queerphobia and an active avoidance of understanding queerness differently.

The exact same joke (which is what I heard it as) is in one of the Baedan journals, which I'm guessing is where he got it from

I would be interested to read that section if anybody can come up with it.

Aside from that I appreciate your responding. I'm not going to listen to it again to think through what you've said, but I am pretty sensitive to people's word choices and presentation generally so I generally feel confident about what I said.

1