Recent comments in /f/PoC

betterletter wrote

I agree with you on most of this, +1 but I went to see what the origin of the "hoodie" is, and this is what wikipedia at least had to say:

Hooded garments have been a documented part of men's and women's wear for centuries. The word hood derives from the Anglo-Saxon word hōd,[1] ultimately of the same root as English hat.[2] The garment's style and form can be traced back to Medieval Europe when the normal clothing for monks included a hood called a cowl attached to a tunic or robes,[3] and a chaperon or hooded cape was very commonly worn by any outdoors worker.

came from white peasants. However,

The hooded sweatshirt was first produced in the United States starting in the 1930s. The modern clothing style was first produced by Champion in the 1930s and marketed to laborers working in freezing temperatures in upstate New York.[4] The term hoodie entered popular usage in the 1990s.[5]

Laborers in upstate NY at the time were likely majority immigrants and PoC, so in America this might be the case but not necessarily Europe. Then again I am white so I'll probably never know how shit it is to have to use a hood to shield my face from the world.


Catsforfun wrote

I’m white and I just never really got racism until I started learning about leftism. It was all subconscious and by learning about it I then developed the skills to be able to identify racism inside and outside myself and talk about it in an intelligent and compassionate way. I think a lot of white people mean wel but are just clueless and those are the ones I wouldn’t give up on.

It’s been a continual learning process. I recal an instance when I made a mistake by believing indentured servitude was comparable to slavery because that was literally what I was taught. Instead of working with me about it, I lost potential friends and anti oppression buddies. I ended up doing the research myself, but I still felt bad about being written off because I made a mistake. People who are willing to learn will do the work themselves if you point them in the right direction.


rot wrote

Not talking with white people will only make it worse, they'll "other" you even harder. Violence won't help humanize anyone, PoC are already seen as thugs so it'll reinforce that.

Confront us and make us feel bad so we rethink what we are doing. Always defend yourself. (nonviolently or otherwise)


Cheeks wrote

Don't generalize, as there are 'white' people that are accomplices and not merely allies or the opposition. With that said, you are absolutely correct that more 'violent' (its not violence it is self defense) means are necessary. But try to build community at the same time. Read up on assata Shakur, huey Newton, Malik Rahim, and the black panther party as a whole for inspiration.


youknowhom wrote

As a PoC myself, I feel so hopeless most of the time. With Trump as president, white people are embracing racism like never before. Should we just stop talking to them altogether and hope they fix their fucked up shit themselves, or should we turn to more violent means to make them see us as people?


existential1 wrote

Firstly, yes (this isn't even debatable). But past that, what is pretty interesting given the content of the article is how some of the interpersonal expectations under Jim Crow have dissipated into more systemic (i.e. media-propogated) customs instead of direct one-to-one expectations.

The other interesting thing is that nearly all of the systemic barriers have continued to today, but in a more associative way for things on the margins, de-facto for the things that would have to be explained away, and legally "invisible" for the most deplorable things.