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LostYonder wrote

I don't pirate books - I need the feel and smell of a hard edition, I can't read significant work digitally, it seems sacrilegious! Libraries and used book stores are my favorite places to hang out, though I do buy a lot of new books too.


noordinaryspider wrote

I would be the same way if I had stability. :)

Even a house that looks like the worst episode of that hoarders' teevee show doesn't seem to be enough. I'm kind of stranded here on Earth so I do have to download most of my books but somehow I'm always able to come up with replacement royalty fees for authors who are down on their luck.

The fact is, the people who write the books get the exact same royalty check whether you got their book after hours of fun browsing through the dollar bins at the used bookstore or clicking on a link at the Pirate Bay:

They don't get jack shit.

So yea, I download because I allegedly "can't" pay new book prices by society's standards.

That's why I CAN pay new book prices if it's a book I really need and can't get any other way and I am ALWAYS able to scrape up some sort of a donation for a favourite and beloved author with an unexpected health/financial emergency.

I know. It's a weird-ass way to live and you just have to accept people shaking their heads and saying, "wtf?!?!?!" a lot.

It's a book geek thang.


db0 wrote (edited )

Lately I do not pirate much because I have enough disposable income to cover my modest needs and receive convenience and less chance of malware. I spend something like 25 per month for Google Music and Netflix for 3 people, and maybe 50$ per steam sale.


noordinaryspider wrote (edited )

That's a wonderful choice on your part ethically. I think you could spend less money and increase the good you are doing by making different choices than those corporations (Google and Netflix) but somebody else is going to have to help you with that.

You have a great day.


martasultan wrote

I pirate music & books since I don't often find ethical alternatives; I do not pirate games or software because I use /f/freeasinfreedom software, negating any need for piracy in the first place.

I might start using bandcamp for music if I can figure out how to pay online.


selver wrote (edited )

I pirate from corporations. I pay if it's straight from the producer & they seem to need the money, ie. I'm not paying if you're already really famous.

Bandcamp & Patreon are usually what I use to support artists.

And I buy books cause I like hard copies.

Edit: But also it's all dependent on me having disposable income now. When I didn't have the money I'd just pirate it all, and then try to give back when I could


thekraken wrote (edited )

I'll pay for things made by indie devs / small bands that make music I like / etc. The minute it's produced by a publicly traded corporation, or large private entity, I view it as immoral to pay for it, as I feel those kind of organizations are antithetical to the individual and ought to be suppressed as they no longer serve humanity but are instead a way for the greedy to oppress the poor without it affecting their consciences (i.e. "The Company did that, not me, I'm not a bad person.)

Fuck em.


surreal wrote

sadly i gave up to spotify, after losing 1TB of music i've gathered over the years, some albums i can't find on torrents anymore. and youtube is not an option as quality really matters if you listen to music 12+ hours everyday.


noordinaryspider wrote

Hey dude, I don't know if I can help or not but I've got a ton of music I could share with you if there's any way we could make that happen with my extremely lame skills. How about retroshare?


surreal wrote

nice ty, i was thinking of remaking my library. my hard disk died though and i have only a 240g SSD atm with the system. not sure what is worth to buy.


noordinaryspider wrote

Yea, I'm in a similar situation. What I type one day may be what I shed like so much dead skin by the time I can read your reply anyway. :)

ttyl and drop me a PM if you ever have hard drive space and enough low-stress free time to care what I have to offer.

Peace out.


mofongo wrote

I pirate music: I hardly listen to music, hardly search for it, and only listen constantly a few selected songs. So I pirate it.

I pirate books: books are expensive here, the cheaper side is a full day of income. Three days for most popular stuff. The cheaper ones, are out of copyright. I buy those. Everything else, pirate.

I pirate movies: except those that are on Netflix. I rather pirate stream, unless it's something I'd like to keep.

I pirate some games: Wii/wiiu/emulator. Console games are as or more expensive than books, unless it's smash Bros or Pokemon, I rather wait until EOL and pirate. On pc, they're cheap enough on a sale that I don't bother. There's also lots of free games. I only buy DRM free/Linux games, though.

I pirate background wallpapers: copy and paste is way too easy.


TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote

I bought a cd on bandcamp recently, I odnt feel guilty buying on there.


noordinaryspider wrote (edited )

I'd be interested in learning more about Bandcamp if you feel like talking.

I bought a musician's right pinky toenail or something (David Rovics CSA[1]) but I could never figure out how to actually turn my money into music. I don't feel guilty supporting him one bit and he answers fanmail and is both fun and respectful. Of course I'm going to continue donating to the guy and scraping with youtube-dl, torrenting, and everything else I'd normally do because pirating a pirate who approves of, is aware of, and understands your piracy is just NOT a problem.

I would love any advice on getting my music that was offered with the CSA, of course. :)

He uses Bandcamp and Dropbox and I'm kind of a purist when it comes to software (FSF member[2]), but since I've got Boring Old Vanilla Debian on this thing, it's not a technical/piracy issue at all.

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TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote

according to their website they give back 80% of the musician's revenue to them, so it's less exploitation than regular cd companies. I thought it was more, I'll probably donate in the future..

I'm sorry I can't really help you get your CD from bandcamp, I dont really know how it works either. Dropbox has a linux client thought (also u can use it from the web afaik), so you could get them from there maybe, if the artist gave you a key or something.


ziq wrote (edited )

I pirate everything. Unless it's like a self-published book sold in limited quantities by the author, or a homebrew videogame sold by its developer for dead consoles / linux.


Aesbeth wrote

I pirate music, and usually buy it when I know my cash goes directly to the artist.

I pirate books because I like to have a shitton of books with me at all time. I know I can give them to anyone because it's data. And if something is really good, I'm not against buying it.

I pirate movies, because let's be honest, a lot of movies sucks, theatres are expensive, and why would i have to schedule myself to see something that will be available later in a more convinient way?

I pirate games, because I'm in retro-gaming and indies. I'd rather give cash to a bunch of small teams making great games, and spend time showing hidden retro gems to friends than spending time on the latest AAA game.


Triconick wrote

I basically pirate everything.

Music: Yep, never once paid for music. TV Shows: You bet, I have a nice collection of shows that i like to watch. Movies: I have never once paid for a movie. Books: Not a fan of Ebooks or audio books, i like a hard copy. Video Games: This is a tough one, normally i do not have the funds to buy games so i pirate them (most of the games i play i pirate) BUT i do pay for games i really like or games that are 99% multiplayer (cs:go, cod, ect) I will buy when i have the money.

Basically almost everything on my HDD is pirated, even my copy of windows. Mostly this is due to lack of funds. But at the same time its so nice to be able to just download all the seasons of a show, copy it to the media server and enjoy on any device in my house. I can't see trying to rip over 100+ episodes of a show from DVDs to be put on a media server. I feel like that would take a very long time....


tranarchy wrote

I'll pay for independently-produced content. I also pay for video games for the convenience factor and since I like to play multiplayer games that won't let you on the servers unless you have a genuine copy.


QPR1991 wrote

Stop with music as I feel the content to value ratio is worth it with the current main provider's.


ziq wrote

How do you consume music?


noordinaryspider wrote

It's similar to breathing or eating but a lot more urgent, but instead of leaving stinking piles of feces and an absence of music

Don't do anything at all???????

Well, the music's still there

What's the problem again?