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Dumai wrote

well it certainly ain't a liberal democracy but i see your point

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retiredaccount wrote

its something much better

generally I just respond to that as if they said "democracy" because if i go "its the only neo-nazbolshevik-baathist" thats pretty arbitrary of a definition to use to proclaim superiority

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Dumai wrote

i have no idea what you're trying to say with that neo-nazbolshevik-baathist thing

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mofongo wrote

It means right wing/reactionary.

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Dumai wrote

but ba'athism and zionism are both very particular ideologies that don't really warrant comparison to nazism (national bolshevism, even), or to each other

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retiredaccount wrote

I'm saying that adding arbitrary descriptors lets me say anything is the 'only' of something, which itself is meaningless.

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Dumai wrote

ok but "liberal democracy" describes a very real form of government that can and should be criticised

dunno how to do that if we're calling the word "liberal" an arbitrary descriptor

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retiredaccount wrote

their implication was that israel is the best by arbitrarily using "liberal democracy" to discount other democracies