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roanoke9 wrote

By giving them, they mean not prohibiting the procedures which they (of course) pay for out of pocket. To understand what most americans say when they talk requires such a deep familiarity with so many layers of doublespeak and implicit conditioning it is probably better to just ignore them. I cannot wait till I lose the ability to translate it. Your short answer, no, is perfectly accurate.

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roanoke9 wrote

So I don't just boast about myself, by contrast, when asked in gradeschool what I wanted to be when I grew up, I said president of the united states and I was dead serious. But I was super arrogant and secretive. I was basically a closet tankie till my middle school thought experiment led me to the- no one should have power over others epiphany.

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roanoke9 wrote (edited )

Money is a higher ranked god than capitalism. I can get any number of people to denounce capitalism, but money? People act as if you asked them to rip out their own still beating heart. And this is just online hypothetical conversation, like really low stakes. Irl It worked better back in the 90s when I would end a long anti-money tirade by burning a bill to ashes in front of them. Oh the look on people's faces was priceless.

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roanoke9 wrote (edited )

That's definitely a facet of what I was talking about. Forcing something ineffable into an arbitrary box can take many forms and of those transactions is one. Pics or it didn't happen is another facet: if it wasn't recorded it didn't count. The arbitrary division between sexual and platonic interactions is another: kiss on the lips: sexual, kiss on the cheek: platonic (using US norms). It reminds me metaphorically of an early point in my art study (grade-school) when I was obsessed with the idea that drawings have outlines but the world as I see it does not. Outlines in a drawing are a shortcut, a visual heuristic, but they don't actually exist. Once we extract the outlines from a thing and pretend the outline is that thing, we have lost nearly all of that thing. Preconditioned sex-roles are even worse though, because they aren't even an outline, more of a stick-figure bathroom door label simplification with only a tangential relation to any individual person.

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roanoke9 wrote

I had a long reply but it did not satisfy me. I like this post a lot. It seems similar to some of my thoughts on sex and societal preconditioning. Though I agree with atopos that attaching binary roles to penetrative sex is simply another aspect of that conditioning. Even the division we customarily assign between sex and all other nonsex activities is a societal constraint and creates an artificial binary. And, I will add that breaking this preconditioning is fun? exhilerating? the opposite of deja vu? Whenever language seems at a loss, I use it as a clue that something very interesting is being approached, attempted? grasped for?

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

I don't think it's groups. I think individuals are just as capable of shaming and expectations and encouraging culture. Plenty of people do all kinds of weird cultural norms all alone.

And for the second thing it was more my hope of being an IRL shonen protagonist. Basically have such calloused hands that I stir the food with my hand. Wasn't really looking for a solution. I just wanted to look cool.

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Majrelende wrote

Whenever there are two people, they seem to reproduce a culture, and often it seems that the only way to avoid it is to be alone. I imagine if they were both well-read in Zerzan it might be possible, but anyways it is extremely difficult. We usually look at other people with the expectation of being judged, and I think that is part of our trauma living under authority. Every other person we see as a microcosm of Society, capable of judging us in its place.

Except in very close relationships maybe, whatever form-- friendships, marriage, otherwise amorous or familial, where there is little to no fear of judgement and the self/other distinction becomes blurred.

I could say something about language and connotation and their formation right now but I will restrain myself.

And about stirring boiling water with your hand... if that doesn't end up well maybe some twigs from a non-poisonous tree would work to do the same.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

Also to the critics who say. (You end all your posts with the end post button). You are incorrect. You only see the posts I end with the end post button. You don't see the ones I never press the button. Which is frequent.

I wrote up a essay on love joy and gintama. Spent a couple hours got bored then closed the tab because there is no future so I won't save it for a future I don't believe it. I don't need that baggage held onto. I enjoyed it and let it go.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

In case you are wondering I'm just as critical and dismissive as other cultural practices of eating with their hands. I find it rather offensive. So I'm not referencing them. They Wouldn't like how I am suggesting to eat either. I ate dinner yesterday and rice hits so much better if I stick my fingers in my mouth and lick it off my palm.

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