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GaldraChevaliere wrote

You know they don't. Most vegans don't care to make a distinction between has to/wants to.

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Catsforfun wrote

thats not cool. I dont like those masculinity-crisis-meateaters/meatbeaters, but i gotta eat meat a couple times a week.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Def. I think on the whole the hardcore hurr durr me man me eat MEAT filthy soyboy types are the worse considering they've got the like, social backing to continue being violent assholes, I'm just sick of vegans with no connection to their food or understanding of logistics trying to turn it into a personal moral failing if someone can't match their expectations of purity.

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TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote

It's because we understood the connection to our food that we decided to stop eating meat. Most vegans are thanks to an "awakening".

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Glad to see it's practically religious in nature. Vegans don't understand their food, their entire platform stems from a total misunderstanding in how food is distributed and produced beyond the cruelty of the factory itself.There's nothing inherently radical in the position because it makes no adjustments for the human suffering in agriculture.

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TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote

What misunderstanding do I have that would make me reconsider eating meat?

Veganism by definition focuses on the animals suffering lol. It may not be "radical" for you, but it is important for me.

Also it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Like intersectionalism, you know.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

I've not seen one vegan initiative that gives any focus or credence to the brutality of the working conditions on the factory farm, including non-livestocking farms. What I have seen is vegan trends robbing rural communities of their food source by pricing them out, ie quinoa and its surge of popularity in the north. Veganism seems to actively try to exist within a vacuum and it relies on moral judgements towards those least able to live without the meat industry's involvement. Vegans consistently fail to understand the trends that led to mass livestocking in the first place or the kind of damage just swapping that infrastructure without reconsidering the entire system of agriculture itself. That's the issue; there's no concern about the people affected by it or what to do with the existing livestock after.

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