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zoom_zip wrote

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okay

take from this what works for you

before worrying about loving yourself, find some way to respect yourself. this doesn’t come easy and it definitely doesn’t come quick. it usually involves spending some time focused on yourself (perhaps time that you currently avoid because you don’t want to be with yourself). i usually do this by cutting my hair differently. another thing might be just taking the time to make your bed in the morning. something that is small and manageable but that is a thing you do just for yourself. the first 100 times you take this small action you wont feel anything. you might even think it was a waste of time. but if you keep at it for a while you are teaching yourself that you are worth at least a small dedication of time investment just for you.

I despise everything about myself, think that I have no redeeming qualities, am overflowing with mental baggage and these feelings have nearly driven me to suicide several times over the past few years.

this is a wall we build for ourselves in our own minds. it doesn’t matter how many other people tell us this isn’t true, or compliment us, or say nice things about us; we won’t see it. we will be totally blind to it, and see only ourselves and the cloud of black fog that we surround ourselves with. because of this, it really is a thing we have to tackle within ourselves. finding some kernel of pride about something. anything.

i doubt it’s possible to have no redeeming qualities. nothing that exists has no redeeming qualities. you’re pretty smart. you have great music taste. you’re well read. you seem self aware. you’re resilient (you have been through hardship and you’re still here). that’s just what we see here. but you won’t hear it from me, so find it in yourself.

you say there are people who genuinely care for you, and others who have cared for you in the past. that doesn’t come from nowhere. it doesn’t happen for no reason. it’s because they see something in you worth caring about. what is it that they see?

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CoryImmediatism wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted27729 in by !deleted27729

No. for the same reason the hospital doesn't want you for a broken leg when the broken leg happened in your past. Remember that hospital beds are limited and there is competition for them, often. But, you seem very keen to engage in convo about this. Maybe you should just phone your prescribing physician's office and talk with them about stopping your medication. They can change the dose or offer alternative medications if you didn't like that one. And of course, they can answer your questions that you are asking me.

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zephyr wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted27729 in by !deleted27729

that's my understanding which unfortunately doesn't qualify for 100% sure. i just spent over an hour searching for some documentation for new york state laws/regulations without success. but i can't imagine any hospital that would admit a minor whose parent was committing them because they stopped taking an antidepressant.

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zephyr wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted31906 in by !deleted27729

'Unfortunately you are correct that according to the NY State Health Dept, "An individual who is legally a minor (under 18 years old) cannot give effective legal/informed consent to treatment and therefore, conversely, cannot legally refuse treatment." '

this quote refers to the medical treatment of minors by emergency medical people (first responders, etc) in emergency medical situations. it has nothing to do with mental health situations. (https://www.health.ny.gov/professionals/ems/policy/99-09.htm)

"Because of such a long half-life, the withdrawal will come later than with others. Brain zaps, mood swings, lethargy, other problems you had from before antidepressants and more. You may inadvertently turn against your parents or snap, without being able to easily control your anger. This danger lasts for months, up to a year. I implore you, if you want to come off the drugs, make sure sure sure you can mask your emotions and not snap whatever you do."

i have never read or experienced any effects like this from fluoxatine. it sounds like nonsense.

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SJWarCleric wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted27729 in by !deleted27729

I was also prescribed meds around that age and honestly I wish I hadn't been because I was still developing and was given an incorrect diagnosis. They also never tried other meds and I developed a physical tremor. Most people aren't done with developing until their mid 20s and psychs aren't supposed to give most psych meds to kids because there's a lack of data. I'm sorry you are going through this.

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CoryImmediatism wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted27729 in by !deleted27729

You're quite welcome. Read the whole list of withdrawal symptoms at the link I shared and ask yourself if you could be hospitalized for any of those symptoms.

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zoom_zip wrote

Reply to by !deleted27729

wean yourself off just to be safe

reduce it gradually over like 2 weeks

whether you can be sectioned into hospital is dependent on your country

all we can say is that it’s “unlikely” just for stopping a medication, but i know how these doctors think and they often talk about things like “risk factors”, which is their code word for “i’m scared of this person” and will use that to hospitalise them

also if you are a minor and your parents aren’t supportive, they could collude with and influence the doctor

if your therapist supports it, then speak about it more assertively with them. say “i am stopping” and see what advice they give

take advice from internet weirdos with a grain of salt

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Reply to comment by zephyr in by !deleted27729

you can only be committed if you say you are thinking about killing yourself or you threaten violence to someone else. even if you are a minor, no one can commit you because you stopped taking a prescribed drug.

This varies by country! Please clarify which country you mean.

OP: verify the laws for your country!

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zephyr wrote

Reply to by !deleted27729

fluoxetine is very slowly cleared from the body (over a week to reduce the body concentration by half) so stopping it quickly isn't a problem. no physiological withdrawal. i've been on and off it several times.

you can only be committed if you say you are thinking about killing yourself or you threaten violence to someone else. even if you are a minor, no one can commit you because you stopped taking a prescribed drug.

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NoPotatoes wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted27729 in by !deleted27729

can they "hospitalize" me if i'm otherwise totally functioning and happy?

No idea. Likely depends on jurisdiction. Might depend on if you had been institutionalized before, and what the terms of your release were. Also I think you are a minor, so your parents might be able to hospitalize you against your will.

Typically you would only get hospitalized if you were determined to be "a danger to yourself or others", from what I understand.

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CoryImmediatism wrote

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don't be sorry. I'm googling right now to find out if you can stop it abruptly and will share you the most reliable link I find.

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NoPotatoes wrote (edited )

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Fluoxetine's longer half-life makes it less common to develop discontinuation syndrome following cessation of therapy, especially when compared to antidepressants with shorter half-lives such as paroxetine. Although gradual dose reductions are recommended with antidepressants with shorter half-lives, tapering may not be necessary with fluoxetine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoxetine#Discontinuation_syndrome

To be extra safe, you can take one pill tomorrow, then another 5 days after that, then 8 days after that, then 13 days, and so on. That might be overkill, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant_discontinuation_syndrome

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throwaway wrote

Reply to comment by Fool in by !deleted27729

Psychedelics, too. Enormous potential for helping with addiction, depression and other really shitty issues - in many cases with one single dose; not addictive; impossible to overdose; easy to produce; the list goes on and on, yet it's classified in the same category as heroin, and drowned in lies and taboo.

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groovygardener42069 wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted30 in by !deleted27729

Hash and tinctures have existed for thousands of years as well. I'm not sure if it's possible to compare modern flower to hash from the Persian renaissance, but I don't think that it's fair to act like people haven't been getting -really fucking high- for a pretty long time now.

I think there's a point to be made as well that this type of argument is often used to justify modern-day prohibition, but the crazy potent shit we see today probably wouldn't exist if there wasn't such a profit motive to create the strongest possible bud for small indoor grow spaces. I don't think it's a coincidence that this new focus on landrace strains is coming back several years after large-scale legalization in the US - give people the option to buy regular ass weed without getting arrested, and people really will buy regular-ass weed. I know I sure as hell wouldn't wanna get pulled over with an ounce of reggie in my buttcrack in my state tho so I smoke loud

More to the point of this meme itself, I'm noticing a bit of an ouroboros effect here: as it stands, society defines and treats "mental health issues" mainly by how they change an individual's relationship to capitalism - after all, you can't work, you can't eat, you die. But capitalism also requires the forging of new markets in its drive for infinite expansion, which in mainstream psychiatry means manufacturing illness and neuroses to treat with new (patent-able) molecules, or shoehorning old molecules into new (patent-able) treatments. If anyone has any good reading on that, please share :)

One last thing before I go, this also ties into really toxic aspects of protestant work ethic in American culture. There's currently a lot of pharma companies, for example, trying to alter psilocybin molecules so that people can have the same life-altering experience without... actually getting high or tripping at all. Or microdosing. Or the whole focus on CBD in the wellness community, like good ol' fashioned chronic won't get you a solid dose of CBD too. It's that "no pain no gain" mindset that says no, relaxation is bad, there's a cultural stigma around accepting the idea that maybe gettin' high is good for you sometimes.

Anyway, smoke 'em if you got 'em

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Fool wrote

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It's kind of interesting how long it took to start medicalising weed.

Either way, it's about making it illegal to be poor. Gate point 1 is when you can afford the psychiatrist. Gate point 2 is when you can afford the police bribes.

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__0 wrote

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I love (/s) how the idea of efficiency introduces a profit motive into the medical system, there's this idea that because something works for a statistically significant group of people that when it's not working for someone it's their fault, the professionalization and of medicine, as well as the moral system the legal system places far to many limits on patients bodily autonomy. It's especially ironic that some drugs that are safe to be prescribed by a doctor are illegal to own without a prescription, and in some cases with the lack of access to medicine many people are being legally targeted for doing something that would best be described as self-medicating. The idea that drug addiction is seen as a moral crisis that requires punishing behaviours of dependency (that would be seen as normal in non-stigmatized substances) really shows where our society is at.

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