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AnarcheAmor wrote

Which is why I think it is no mistake that the DSM finds that this disorder is more prevalent in households that are "harsh and inconsistent".

I think you assumed that I was undermining that point when I wasn't or wasn't trying to. I was saying that ODD was about responses to authority and that said responses can lead to a kid being a danger to themselves. What causes ODD is less important than the ODD itself because, for one, it's difficult to change a kid's home situation and it's hard to determine whether or not the parenting is the actual problem. A lot of times, the problem is that the kid has underlying issues and the ODD is merely the interaction between those issues and the authority adults use to get the kid to do the very thing that the kid has issues with. This is ultimately why the "it's just bad parenting" argument is pretty harmful because it is way more complicated than that but the focus has to be on treating whatever issues the kid is suffering through so that they don't end up hurting themselves. By no means is this a rejection of it being used to force behavioral conformity onto children though because, by the end of the day, that's a lot of how the diagnosis is used.

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AnarcheAmor wrote

You clarified yourself just fine. It's completely understandable why this would get you heated, the whole subject is complicated and a lot of people's experiences with psychiatry and therapy can be pretty bad at best and outright abusive at worst.

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