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IForgotToSayGoodbye wrote

It's kind of interesting how long it took to start medicalising weed.

Either way, it's about making it illegal to be poor. Gate point 1 is when you can afford the psychiatrist. Gate point 2 is when you can afford the police bribes.


throwaway wrote

Psychedelics, too. Enormous potential for helping with addiction, depression and other really shitty issues - in many cases with one single dose; not addictive; impossible to overdose; easy to produce; the list goes on and on, yet it's classified in the same category as heroin, and drowned in lies and taboo.


bloodrose wrote

I'd love to hear /u/groovygardener42069 's take on this. I had read that marijuana today has been highly cultivated since the 1960s and is very different from what it used to be.


groovygardener42069 wrote

Hash and tinctures have existed for thousands of years as well. I'm not sure if it's possible to compare modern flower to hash from the Persian renaissance, but I don't think that it's fair to act like people haven't been getting -really fucking high- for a pretty long time now.

I think there's a point to be made as well that this type of argument is often used to justify modern-day prohibition, but the crazy potent shit we see today probably wouldn't exist if there wasn't such a profit motive to create the strongest possible bud for small indoor grow spaces. I don't think it's a coincidence that this new focus on landrace strains is coming back several years after large-scale legalization in the US - give people the option to buy regular ass weed without getting arrested, and people really will buy regular-ass weed. I know I sure as hell wouldn't wanna get pulled over with an ounce of reggie in my buttcrack in my state tho so I smoke loud

More to the point of this meme itself, I'm noticing a bit of an ouroboros effect here: as it stands, society defines and treats "mental health issues" mainly by how they change an individual's relationship to capitalism - after all, you can't work, you can't eat, you die. But capitalism also requires the forging of new markets in its drive for infinite expansion, which in mainstream psychiatry means manufacturing illness and neuroses to treat with new (patent-able) molecules, or shoehorning old molecules into new (patent-able) treatments. If anyone has any good reading on that, please share :)

One last thing before I go, this also ties into really toxic aspects of protestant work ethic in American culture. There's currently a lot of pharma companies, for example, trying to alter psilocybin molecules so that people can have the same life-altering experience without... actually getting high or tripping at all. Or microdosing. Or the whole focus on CBD in the wellness community, like good ol' fashioned chronic won't get you a solid dose of CBD too. It's that "no pain no gain" mindset that says no, relaxation is bad, there's a cultural stigma around accepting the idea that maybe gettin' high is good for you sometimes.

Anyway, smoke 'em if you got 'em



Yeah.. the level of THC in todays plants is waaaaay higher.


__0 wrote

I love (/s) how the idea of efficiency introduces a profit motive into the medical system, there's this idea that because something works for a statistically significant group of people that when it's not working for someone it's their fault, the professionalization and of medicine, as well as the moral system the legal system places far to many limits on patients bodily autonomy. It's especially ironic that some drugs that are safe to be prescribed by a doctor are illegal to own without a prescription, and in some cases with the lack of access to medicine many people are being legally targeted for doing something that would best be described as self-medicating. The idea that drug addiction is seen as a moral crisis that requires punishing behaviours of dependency (that would be seen as normal in non-stigmatized substances) really shows where our society is at.


bloodrose wrote

when it's not working for someone it's their fault

Or that the patient is lying/over-exaggerating.

And, re: your point about prescriptions - this adds an authority/power dynamic to health care that winds up with patients at the bottom of the heirarchy.