I still think proxy caching would be key, with only the initial linking instance fetching the content.

Yeah that was suggested at first, but the devs were concerned about some malicious instances giving out fake previews. But then other social media sites already allow you to edit the preview itself, so maybe it's not really a big of a deal...

A few 1000 connections isn't much for a proxy repeating the same content - it is a lot for a server running indexing and queries.

Edit: I just realised I read it wrong, the problem is Mastodon DDoS on random web hosts, not on other Federated hosts... I still think proxy caching would be key, with only the initial linking instance fetching the content.

Well if everyone just run their own caching instance, wouldn't the DDoS problem still exist, this time just moved to their caching instances..?

Option 3 is completely different to what I proposed. What I proposed could include some consolidation, but potentially everyone could run their own separate caching instance.

You could say DNS has the same issue, people can and do create their own root hosts, it's just the choice of choosing who to trust.

That kinda is one of the proposed solutions (specifically #3) in this GitHub issue, I think.

Though I think your specific solution of letting instances have its own caching hosts introduces its own problem too: it eventually will lead to centralized caching services, since it wouldn't make sense to have each instance host its own caching service. Which kinda defeats the point of decentralization in Mastodon...

Sounds like there needs to be some sort of Proxy / Forwarder type system for interaction between instances.

So an instance would only allow a specific list of caching hosts to pull, and only connect to the caching hosts to pull data.

god tell me about it. I tried being more open to more perspectives it didn't last long. Peoples takes I mostly liked though getting posts glorifying rojava, getting bombarded with pro organization and eventually anark unironically showed up on my home page so I just went purging after that.

And if you were wondering, yes anark wrote lke 10 paragraphs about how much they hate lifestylism. yes literally.

Ahh, a raddle with something to hide. It seems you deleted all your previous post history. Very mysterious.

Pokémon, you gotta catch em all

I have an account on .nl that I haven't logged into in a couple years at least. That's what Mastadon is to me...the "once every few years for a month or so" site.

Todol.nl/todon.eu are good...

Ni.hil.ist is the bomb

I told thembo the same thing:

A couple specifically anarchist instances I know of: kolectiva.social, and anarchism.space (currently invite only)

I'm on ni.hil.ist

Thanks that actually elucidates some things! Maybe one of these days I'll get on there :)

The "hardest" parts are finding an instance and then blocking out some of the shitpost noise (which, to some, isn't an issue)

Like I said above to Tequila:

Basically you have 3 timelines: Personal, Local, and Federated

• Personal: Just the people you've specifically chosen to follow
• Local: Just the people who use the same instance as you
• Federated: Kinda like a global TL, minus any instances that your own has blocked (e.g. most instances have blocked nazi instances, gab, etc.)

Here's a page to help you find an instance that suits you: https://joinmastodon.org/communities

Edit: A couple specifically anarchist instances I know of: kolectiva.social, and anarchism.space (currently invite only)

It's really not terribly different from Twitter. I think what gets people is the whole "finding a homeserver/instance" thing...there's also a lot of shitposting to dig through at first when you look at the "Federated" timeline (if you're like me, and that just isn't your thing)

Basically you have 3 timelines: Personal, Local, and Federated

Personal: Just the people you've specifically chosen to follow

Local: Just the people who use the same instance as you

Federated: Kinda like a global TL, minus any instances that your own has blocked (e.g. most instances have blocked nazi instances, gab, etc.)

When FB started to shut down anarchist pages and shit there was a person who modded a group with me who was constantly pushing us to move to mastodon. I was never really able to figure out how to not be out in the public stream which is not often in a language I can read mixed in with random social media posts about regular stuff? I am very confused by it.

How do you find Mastodon?

I don't know why but I've never taken the time to figure it out. The tiny learning curve at the beginning has been prohibitive.

I created an account. Same user name as here.

What is mastodon?

Oooh thanks much

Nah, just reposting something I saw u/FranklinLopez post elsewhere.

Thanks!

I tried Mastadon for awhile, got a list of anarchist accounts from a friend who used it. It seemed cool for the international socializing possibilities, especially if you speak additional languages that have a community on the site. However, I just lack the energy to keep up with it. It seemed to take more energy to build out and maintain than twitter, which it is seems to be a federated clone of.

Unlike raddle, which I think is an excellent replacement for reddit with the exception of a few forums that don't exist (mostly sports related). Mastadon, to me, required too many clicks to add new folks...and was used a lot more "socially" in a way that I don't particularly need social media for. I like being able to miss a few days and go through the archives to see what I missed. With mastadon, that's a super waste of time once you have enough connections that similar conversations start reiterating through your feed over time. All that being said, I would still recommend it for anyone who hasn't tried. It did seem to facilitate strong digital bonds for the folks who invest their time on it.