Submitted by a_perfect_map in Man (edited )

"A clear analogy can be made between male profeminism and anti-racism. Men cannot really be feminists anymore than whites can be black nationalists. However, men can be pro-feminist and whites can be pro-black nationalists. At the same time it is not enough to simply be a member of the disenfranchised minority to be either a feminist or a black nationalist. Feminism, like black nationalism requires political consciousness and even activism."

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"Unfortunately, some segments of the men’s movement, such as men’s rights groups and followers of Robert Bly’s mythopoetic movement, seem less focused on dismantling patriarchy and more focused on, in bell hook’s (1992) words, “the production of a kind of masculinity that can be safely expressed within patriarchal boundaries. She further explains that the most frightening aspect of the contemporary men’s movement, particularly as it is expressed in popular culture, is the depoliticization of the struggle to end sexism and sexist oppression and the replacing of that struggle with a focus on personal self-actualization. She suggests that the men’s movement should not beseparate from the women’s movement but instead become a segment under the larger feminist movement. In this way men would not be taking center stage in yet another part of women’s lives allowing a slightly more subtle form of domination to continue."

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"As suggested by Alison Jaggar and others, men must first learn the text of feminist theory. This learning must not only involve the traditional reading of seminal works in feminist theory by feminist authors but must also involve a learning of social and political experience from a feminist perspective. Men should consult with feminist women when writing about feminist theory. Men should also support more authorship of feminist theory by women and challenge other men to see feminist theory as a legitimate and necessary practice that challenges men to end patriarchy. Above all, men need to engage with feminist theory and practice, letting it work on them, in order to liberate all genders and build a society constructed on justice and nourished by love."

I think that this is where I'm coming from, yeah. We look for our own new identity to become healthier, but not alone, with each other and with feminists and LGBTQ+ movements, but should not infringe on them or impact their autonomy and learn from each other.

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Just wanted to mention that you''ve been taking up a lot of space on this site with this being a man thing since you showed up and that you might want to be conscientious of that.

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a_perfect_map OP wrote

OK, what is the issue exactly?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Hopefully someone will explain for you.

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a_perfect_map OP wrote

This is rather cryptic, do you mean space as in server storage space or similar? DL more RAM?

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rot wrote

you've just been posting a lot. half my front page is you right now

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a_perfect_map OP wrote

Thank you for saying so. I am taking a break. Honestly I have been pretty lonely and scared. You guys have helped me out. Thank you. But this is a community so I need to respect you all. The group comes first.

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rot wrote

it's great that you're posting it's just a lot in such a short period lol

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