Recent comments in /f/Libertarian
SpaceMoth wrote
Reply to comment by Quantum01 in I know Libertarians aren't necessarily pro Trump, but... by Quantum01
Helping small businesses is still authoritarian because it relies on government power.
SpaceMoth wrote
Reply to Libertarian claims that you are forced to pay taxes is nonsense - you could move to a different country with lower taxes and benefits - there is a market in state memberships by antifascistpotor
Perhaps the pure capitalist argument is flawed, but Georgism states that private land ownership (including land ownership by the state) is inherently coercive. Georgism states that private land ownership theft and therefore income taxation is theft because it is only because of the state's land ownership that it is enforced. Competition does not solve this problem because land has inelastic supply so all the people competing have no right to sell in the first place. It is like arguing that a free market on slaves is not coercive because there is competition so the slaves should be able to buy their freedom.
This argument is just the logical conclusion of Rothbard's view of a libertarian society. But there are plenty of libertarians who don't agree with Rothbard.
Bezotcovschina wrote
Reply to A Call to World Revolution by EFM_11
the invading hordes of sub-humanity
That's me and my friends
roanoke9 wrote
Reply to comment by mjem in A Call to World Revolution by EFM_11
I didn't click any links, but the posted text alone looks fasc as fuck.
mjem wrote
Reply to A Call to World Revolution by EFM_11
to me rhetorics above quite resemble that of communizers' big words where political activity aka domination & manipulation is encouraged to individually internalized ("the Invisible Party"), and both chant optimist spells ("the coming insurrection") ...just like all ideologies
BlackedAIX wrote
Reply to Libertarian claims that you are forced to pay taxes is nonsense - you could move to a different country with lower taxes and benefits - there is a market in state memberships by antifascistpotor
Are you claiming Americans are not forced to pay taxes, as if the government doesn't routinely charge, enslave, and punish people who don't or can't pay...as if you can just move out of the US free of charge? And the 'move' argument is a old tactic for xenophobes.
If your argument claims that moving to another place with 'lower taxes' is a solution to the people who say "Taxation is theft" then you are sadly mistaken and confused. There are or were Libertarians and An-Caps attempting to create and build continent on the Pacific Ocean to start a new tax-free nation.
Majrelende wrote
Reply to Libertarian claims that you are forced to pay taxes is nonsense - you could move to a different country with lower taxes and benefits - there is a market in state memberships by antifascistpotor
I would rather not be guided and patronised by rich guardian angels for my own good, thank you. I also would not like to be made a slave to said rich guardian angels in thanks for their patronising me (for my own good of course).
Where can I go where I will not be guided and patronised by rich guardian angels for my own good? And if I openly disobey them they will try their best to make my life miserable? I would love to know.
roanoke9 wrote
Reply to Libertarian claims that you are forced to pay taxes is nonsense - you could move to a different country with lower taxes and benefits - there is a market in state memberships by antifascistpotor
Sounds like some good praxis would be posing as someone who is someone, getting that first meeting with a developer, then never being able to be found for any subsequent meetings or contacts. In minecraft.
kano wrote
Reply to Libertarian claims that you are forced to pay taxes is nonsense - you could move to a different country with lower taxes and benefits - there is a market in state memberships by antifascistpotor
I don't really follow the argument here and am not a libertarian but I'm pretty sure I'm forced to pay taxes.
Fool wrote
Reply to Libertarian claims that you are forced to pay taxes is nonsense - you could move to a different country with lower taxes and benefits - there is a market in state memberships by antifascistpotor
Many countries will even advertise their membership costs. For example Ireland has an Investment Visa, granting residence for as low as €500 000.
Such Freedom™ is available for Everyone!©
lettuceLeafer wrote
Reply to by AnarkioCrypto
Bitcoin is the perfect currency for a truly free market.
Yeah it so fucking useful for governments to have digital records of all transactions. That would never be used to hamper individual freedom. This article is just some writer making up a bunch of shit about Bitcoin good so they can get a commission for some Bitcoin gambling site or something similar. Didn't read that far bc th we useless articles r a dime a dozen
jackqi OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted27649 in Are you interested in sex dolls? by jackqi
The use of sex dolls will not affect people's normal life. Dolls are only adult toys, and will not affect normal couples or husband and wife relations
lettuceLeafer OP wrote
Reply to comment by kin in I'm so glad the government taxes like 33 percent of my income when I struggle to pay to take care of myself neverless the other people I need to help care for. And I'm financially way better off than most. . by lettuceLeafer
Yeah my opinion is that if the government implements medicare for all I won't complain but in reality I would only be happy with decriminalized and deregulated medicine so anarchist medical care can be done without committing a felony.
State run free medical care is a helpful compromise but I refuse to compromise.
kin wrote
Reply to comment by lettuceLeafer in I'm so glad the government taxes like 33 percent of my income when I struggle to pay to take care of myself neverless the other people I need to help care for. And I'm financially way better off than most. . by lettuceLeafer
I almost can hear the reddit anarchists:
"But we need medicare for all"
"The govt need the taxes to implement those programs, haven't u heard about mutual aid???"
lettuceLeafer OP wrote
Reply to I'm so glad the government taxes like 33 percent of my income when I struggle to pay to take care of myself neverless the other people I need to help care for. And I'm financially way better off than most. . by lettuceLeafer
Fuck taxes I can't believe how many people in left spaces condone that shit or fucking want to increase it
celebratedrecluse wrote
Reply to comment by AnarkioCrypto in by AnarkioCrypto
Ideally, one wouldn't be coerced into working either, but otherwise I entirely agree.
celebratedrecluse wrote
Reply to by AnarkioCrypto
Good article, thank you for sharing.
The intersectionality of these issues with the struggles of migrants, transgender people, and others is very important and often overlooked in cryptocurrency discussions of KYC. As the article rightly points out, KYC has been everywhere for quite some time.
moonlune wrote
Reply to by AnarkioCrypto
Would you mind doing an AMA? I don't have questions myself but would be interested in what other users here would ask, and your answers to them :)
CSoF wrote (edited )
So long as your 'fair' society is taking into account all the different wants and needs that people will have; you will find that there is no truly perfect way to make it 'fair'. Even if you try to make thing equal/equitable in some fashion, you will end up having to be unfair to someone or even something else in some fashion. You might argue that there are reasonable loses and limitations that can be worked with/around, and I would agree to some extent. However, if your intent is to build a 'fairer' system than the one you currently live in; I implore you to consider all the things that you wouldn't normally care about because you never have had to bother thinking about them before. They may seem like 'exceptions' to you, but they might be the straw that breaks the camels back to another. And that right there is why you will never make a 'fairer' system than one that works on the basis of human nature.
Sorry pal, but people are naturally greedy. Even when you get us to share and cooperate, at the end of the day, people like to have things of their own, and other such topics of discussion surrounding property. Even the most austerity stricken hermit with little to no possessions will have some want or need they deem more important than whatever you argue is even more so. Some thing they place more value on than you do.
And so again, this is why you will never make a 'fairer' system with your current approach. Anarchy is not a way to fix things. Anarchy is the just the chaos inbetween the old system and the new system. And if you already acknowledge this as you might, based on your post; then you should be wise enough that the ultimate corrupting factor to any system, is its government itself.
I.E. You'll never make your perfect system so long as it requires a government of any sort. Let me repeat that. Of ANY sort. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Some exceptional leaders have existed in the past, but they truly are exceptions. And no, you likely are not one of them, no matter how much you might have deluded yourself into believing otherwise. And if so, then all the more reason to fight you tooth and nail, to the bone until either the tree of liberty has been fed, one way or another. Whether it stays standing depends on who wins.
As a side note for those curious: I score as a centrist libertarian in most pol tests. Sometimes swinging slightly left or right depending on the times/day/feelings/opinions/etc.
I DO NOT believe anarchy has any good use beyond use as a philosophical tool for discussion. It is the wet dream of teenagers and angry adults only.
The rest of us would prefer to rebuild society by mutating it, not by burning it down. Mutate, excise, enhance, repeat. That is the best way. IMHO.
You all have a nice day now. This has been my first post on this platform. Hopefully not my last.
ALSO, as a final thought: Dolly, I understand that you likely have good intentions at heart, and I don't mean to seem ... attacking ... in my approach to you. However, as that may be the case, I must be very clear in the historical fact that no revolution has ever really turned out how those who started them intended. No bloody revolution has ever really been of any real benefit to society except after many years, and at that point we can start pointing to many other things that would have been just as beneficial if we are being generous to the revolution itself, if not more beneficial than the revolution itself. Many of these things work in tandem too of course, and so we have to take that into consideration as well.
At the end of the day, unless you have a better plan than "burn it down and rebuild", don't quit your day job to join the unruly mob.
So to properly answer the question you have posed.
No.
CoryImmediatism OP wrote
Reply to comment by kin in Killing King Abacus: Freedom, by Albert Libertad on Immediatism Podcast by CoryImmediatism
You're definitely welcome!
kin wrote
Killing King Abacus 😍, thank you Cory!
Quantum01 OP wrote
Reply to comment by Bezotcovschina in I know Libertarians aren't necessarily pro Trump, but... by Quantum01
this is primarily what i mean, he helped small businesses and i was also speaking to the deregulation of the fda which was what played a big role in getting the vaccine to where it is today.
masque wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by Quantum01 in I know Libertarians aren't necessarily pro Trump, but... by Quantum01
There are no "actual publications" involved here. Also, the posts are honestly not that radical. Lots of "Trump is a fascist" and liking radical music, but the only thing that even mildly suggests that he would be willing to take illegal action is a paraphrase from a less-than-trustworthy source, not backed up by any screenshots, which is itself too vague to imply anything illegal. Really, all we know about Coomer is that he doesn't like Trump. I'm sure there are plenty of higher-ups at Dominion who don't like Biden, but I don't suppose that you'd consider that evidence of anything?
also, it kinda does when he is the VP. he has enough power to control what happens, also, if he is the VP you can probably garuntee that he hires who he wants. meaning that he could control his underlings to do as he believes because their belief system is the same.
What do you think the "belief system" involved here is? There are millions of people in the US who would say "Trump is a fascist" on Facebook, but only a tiny fraction of them would consider committing massive election fraud, and I don't see how you would identify those people during the hiring process. But the bigger issue is that actually modifying the voting machines would mostly be a job for the lower-level software developers, who are definitely not hired directly by the VP of Engineering. This idea that anything in this article is concerning is basically totally vacuous.
There has not been any credible evidence of election fraud in this election, and people who want there to have been are grasping at straws at this point.
Bezotcovschina wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted20335 in I know Libertarians aren't necessarily pro Trump, but... by Quantum01
I heard some reports that he did deregulate a lot of shit for "small businesses", but don't take my words as a prime source.
SpaceMoth wrote
Reply to Can anarchy be used as a tool in creating a libertarian society? by dolly_wally
Anarchy as in a stateless society? Yes. Anarchy as in chaos? No, absolutely not. We got here from anarchy as in chaos.