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xxi OP wrote

Apart from being a pessimist I'm also an idealist. Albeit a battered one. Therefore I'll assume good faith for the time being.

With that said, I think everything after "...got hacked" is correct. I've read more than one account on people leaving because of the atmosphere. Seeing as Torvalds and his "lieutenants" have considerable weight feeling slighted due to something they say must suck pretty hard.

Especially if you're one of those people who hesitate getting involved, decides to take a leap of faith and more or less getting crushed. In public...

So assuming he's genuine will do for now. There's a lot of stuff you can say about Torvalds but he's very frank and honest. I'll cautiously assume that's just what he's now.

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xxi OP wrote

I don't wanna be the one who stack sorry:s on sorry:s, that can escalate into too pleasant quickly. (hehe). I do however want to stress that most of what I wrote was something of a "stream of consciousness"-thing.

In short, I didn't respond to you because I thought you said what you're saying you're sorry for. It's cool. I even found funny so it's doubleplusgood.

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xxi OP wrote

More or less related but detached from my previous comment:

Some friendly ranting and verbal conflict can enhance discussions. As long as everybody can be reasonably assumed to be in on it.

Doesn't mean that ideological elitism and machismo is okay though. From what I've gathered it has been explicitly allowed in relation to the kernel and has been practiced over time. I.e. it's ideological.

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