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yogobro298 wrote (edited )

I know this a shoplifting, but I'm gonna ask anyways because I still feel like it fits in this criteria. Do you know anything about doing B&E's(I mean on stores,shops not on people's homes just to clarify)?

Have you done a B&E before?

Any advice you can give for someone doing a B&E

How do you know a good spot for one?

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

Technically this is within rule #3 so I will answer... mods will delete or edit if it falls outside the rules.

During my 20s-30s I did mostly BE. I still do some but it fairly rare but when I do I am after something very specific. I don't resell my BE.

I will point out that today this is pretty risky. BE is almost always going to get assigned to an investigator. Most businesses will have very good security that is hard to circumvent.

I would also advise this is not a cheap nor a newbie habit to engage in but here goes:

  1. I always make sure I can cut power to a location.
  2. I usually choose targets that are not open over the weekend... this rules out retail and leaves mostly corporate offices.
  3. You want to have a partner who can be a ways away from the area and who has a police scanner which hopefully their channels are not encrypted.
  4. I like to have a cell jammer just in case the previous power cut did not fully drain their batteries and they have a backup cellular notification.
  5. Tag a nearby business so you trigger an alarm. Be quick, don't take anything, and then vanish to a spot that you observe when PD arrives. I would do more than one location and then average the police response time.
  6. My MO is then to cut power to the location on a Friday night or Saturday early morning and then hit them on Sunday night or early Monday morning.
  7. You should be in relative good shape, able to lift your body weight, and avoid if you have any injuries. This all translates into you being able to pullup your entire body weight if you need to scale a wall or lift yourself up into a ceiling. And have enough endurance that you can run a couple miles.

I find the best spots are in industrial areas. Best if there are nearby woods or a dirt trail that you can hit so it is more difficult for security to follow you if something goes south. Best to use a motorcross bike as a getaway. Check the outside location and see if the doors have hinges on the outside. You would be amazed how many people leave a door like this. You then just have to knock the pins out and move the door out of the way. The less lighting the better. Take a can of black spray paint with you and hit cameras that are within reach.

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eous wrote

How long should we be in and out?

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

Like most answers... it depends. :)

If you know you cannot defeat the alarms then I say you need to be in an out a good 60 seconds before the fastest police response time. I would also only do this with an area where you have a major tactical advantage... eg. You break glass, run in, grab your item(s), throw into some container, hit your bike and you are hitting some trails to then meet up with someone in a trailer to throw the bike into and then continue on your way.

If I know the alarms and all cameras are offline I take my time. I have cleaned out a small remote datacenter. One guy who was a complete asshole I took his entire woodworking business. Took me and friend almost four hours to break down everything and load it into a trailer.

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eous wrote

Have you ever broke in through windows or glass doors? How loud is it?

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

Yes to both. A word of advice, do not use a blunt object. Glass will shatter much easier if you use a pointed item with weight behind it. I took a sledge hammer head to a friend who waterjet cut a point on it. And go with a fiberglass handle over wood.

A lot depends on the type of glass and the thickness. I would say it is loud enough you would hear it from 1000-2000 feet away easily.

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eous wrote

Whats the easiest/fastest way to make money?

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Rogue wrote

Always use, at minimum, tape or ideally self adhesive laminate film like the type used to cover books. It won’t dampen the thuds to break the glass but will prevent shards of glass flying and causing injury and minimize the sound of glass shattering and falling to the ground.

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eous wrote

What if the glass is tempered? Shouldn’t I just use a center punch?

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Rogue wrote

Something like this or this should be sufficient.

Tempered glass is a bitch with the cracks slowly spreading and making audible popping/breaking noises. Regardless, for your own safety, I’d still recommend at least taping the glass to account for most of the shards (stuck to the adhesive) and is unaffected by wind direction which can cause shit to fly in an unwanted direction.

Typically, tempered glass can be identified by a manufacturer’s mark in each corner, though the buyer can opt for none.

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mrlifter wrote

need to know if i can rack a paint can again. if you have kept up with my posts you will know that about a month or two ago i took a can of spray paint from hobby lobby. should i go again and risk getting caught or rack supplies at michaels? my HL has sugar cans but they are right in front of a mini black dome. OR i can get krylon right by a camera that probably doesnt work and there is a huge black dome above the krylon. what should i do?

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote (edited )

Feel free to PM very generic location information...

I would feel safe lifting another can from HL. However, my preference would be to grab Krylon from one of the big box stores.

Obviously, check your state laws. The majority of states require that LP have video or visual proof that you concealed the merchandise. HL will have you on camera, for the sugar cans, for the selection step but it is very easy to conceal in an isle that has no camera placement.

One other piece of advice. If you are going to lift go all in. Take as much as you can safely take at one time. Frequency of lifting only increases the percentage chance that something goes wrong.

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mrlifter wrote

i would try to get something from big box stores like wal-mart but its really far, like 10+ miles away and i do not like to bike that far. i have a fred meyers near me and their LP is disgusting.

i have never said this on the website but now i will. once a woman and a cashier were talking and i LP overheard them making small talk. the woman brought up shoplifting and LP instantly walked towards her and demanded to search her bag. the cashier cleared everything up as the woman was discussing about it at another store. LP still searched her and let her go. i dont want to risk that for a few krylons.

my michaels is has locked up their ironlak and stuff. dont know how to lockpick either.

ill test my luck and go to hobby lobby when i have the time

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

Here are the pictures from my HL. The third picture I may have to recant what I said. The object in the upper right is a smoke alarm but I know that is a known device to hide a small camera in. I will have to do some research and see if there is any way I use infrared to find a camera.. I will update this post if I can find anything and go back and take a second picture. I think we need to start a thread on how to find hidden cameras.

And have to apologize for these pictures as well... I edited them on the phone, previewed them on my machine but coinsh still rotated them... Will need to figure this out..

https://coinsh.red/p/HL1.JPG

https://coinsh.red/p/HL2.JPG

https://coinsh.red/p/HL3.JPG

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

I went to a local HL that is in a high shrink area. They did not have any cameras by the paints. They only had Krylon branded paint and it was not locked up.

I visited Michaels and the paints there also were not locked up.

The Joann's were in a locked case.

The two Walmarts in this area had a large selection and nothing locked up.

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yogobro298 wrote (edited )

Do you know anything about scamming, defrauding Companies, sellers on Ebay? I mean there's literally tons of ways to make money online illegally. I know you can do Ebay, Amazon....etc If you're really good you can make thousands. Any advice or guidance on this matter? I feel like its a matter of just being clever . The scamming sub on reddit had some good ideas,but I didn't save any of it now the sub is gone.

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

Not an area I really venture into. The biggest fraud you can pull is to declare bankruptcy every 10+ years. You need a couple people who you have the utmost trust in so you can move assets around. Let me know if you want more details..

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scotch_eggs wrote

  1. I'm currently limited to whatever fits in my purse during multi-store runs, which sucks. What's the best method for increasing storage space? I was thinking I could bring reusable bags in my purse, conceal items in my purse at the first store, then once I'm out of that store, find an unmonitored area to transfer the newly concealed items to a reusable bag. The idea would be to conceal exclusively in my purse, then transfer to a bag once I'm out of a store. Do you have any better ideas, or see any obvious flaws in my plan?

  2. Have any info on Party City?

  3. What's the best store for stealing clothes for the first time?

  4. What are some common security theatre tactics?

  5. What's the best percentage of retail price to resell for?

Thanks in advance!

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

  1. The quickest is to obviously buy a bigger purse. The second quickest is to use a container from the store but your questions seems geared towards concealment. Thus, the next best option is to use your own clothing like a large pocket. Wear loose clothing and conceal within the clothing and your beltline. Step it up a notch and make, or have someone craft, clothing that creates an inner pocket. eg. You sew a pair of shorts into your jeans. The legs of the shorts are sewn to the jeans. Thus, when you put anything down your shorts it is impossible for it to fall out the leg of your pants. The same can be down with sleeves and a blouse. You can also buy false baby pockets and wear maternity clothes.

  2. No current info on Party City but I will check it out and report back. Might be 48 hours before I do.

  3. As a female I would say Ann Taylor, Ann Taylor Loft, Talbots, Chico, White House Black Market. I listed these because they up your wardrobe to look business casual. And these stores actually make decent quality clothes that last. If you want a more casual look then REI.

  4. This is an interesting question and one that would need more specifics or identify a store. I usually use a partner when doing this. The common ones are slip and fall, walk by and brush against the opposite sex and demand that they review the video because someone grabbed you, fake sick with barf, fake blood in the bathroom which becomes a bio hazard, and then acting in a manner that creates a security risk... the easiest being to climb on top of something.

If you are by yourself call the store and describe a customer walking in as a known thief. I do not believe this would be very effective today but may work on smaller sized stores. Adding random security tags to people so the door sensor becomes useless.

  1. I don't ever look at percentage. I try and match a dollar per hour. I add my total time: recon, driving to and from, time in store, and time to make a successful completed sale. If I can lift 50 journals from BN and sell them for 50% and it averages out to $100 or more per hour I am pretty happy with that. If I lift one set of Airpods and make 90%, which is around $135 but it took me an hour to drive to the mall, 10 minutes to park, 30 minutes to walk in and get back to my car, and an hour back home... I am going to be pissed about that exchange.
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scotch_eggs wrote

Thanks so much for the responses, and thanks especially for checking out Party City! Even if you don't get around to it, I appreciate the sentiment greatly.

For question 3, do you know any for guys? Women's clothing makes me dysphoric, lol. And for question 4, I meant security theatre employed by the store--empty threats, security measures that only exist to try and deter shoplifters without being able to identify or get you in trouble. I do appreciate the ideas for if I'm caught, though!

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote (edited )

Funny thing is I use Von Maur for all my business and business casual clothing... bummer another lifter got pinched. All of my other clothing is from REI.

As far as the store tactics I tend not to worry about it. I treat each store with the same respect and discipline. I assume they have someone in a camera room and they have a partner on the floor in plain clothes. I then build my plan around that.

The only tactic I do plan for is having a partner near a door in case they can remotely lock the door. The partner will step in at near the same moment I am exiting. If you are by yourself then make plans to be able to see the exit and time your gait to a customer coming in. I tend to avoid stores that have double door.

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

PC is a joke. I went to one that I know is in a high retail theft area and there were no cameras at all! None on the outside building, none inside, not even above the registers. There were only two employees inside the entire store.

Here are the pictures I took. Sorry the reg photos are tiltled.. Not sure why my edits did not save.

Front door https://coinsh.red/p/PC_frontdoor.JPG

Exit . https://coinsh.red/p/PCexitdoor.JPG

Reg 1 . https://coinsh.red/p/PCreg1.JPG

Reg 2 . https://coinsh.red/p/PCreg2.JPG

Reg 3 . https://coinsh.red/p/PCreg3.JPG

Reg 4 . https://coinsh.red/p/PCreg4.JPG

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mrlifter wrote

on front door photo there is your reflection. heads up

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FreeIsForMe wrote

Yeah party city is just as easy as dollar tree here as well. They only seem to be busy at Halloween time.

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

I roamed around the store but did not pay too much attention...

Are there any items here that are worth reselling or do you mostly lift for personal use at PC?

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FreeIsForMe wrote

Its mostly just crap. I use it when someone needs birthday stuff. Halloween you can snatch the animatronics and they sell close to retail. Same with their costumes.

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scotch_eggs wrote

Wonderful! Thanks so much!! I figured they were either pretty easy, but I didn't know they were THAT easy!

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote

I was so tempted to take one of their printers. They had 3 Epson large format printers just sitting on the other end of the store. Each printer retails for over a grand.

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TakeTheStage wrote

Wheres the best place to find a fence? I need to offload things

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fuck_me_for_giving_a_shit OP wrote (edited )

Swap markets or flea markets are your best bet but that is risky.

The best way is to slowly find people who do commercial work... eg. tradespeople in construction, owner of a small shop, landscapers... get to know them and say something along the line of hey, I got this order that I can not use, or a friend has some extra product and wanted to see if you are interested in it at below market. The person that comes back to you and asks if you can get a hold of more of X is your new best customer.

Finding a true fence is fairly hard and dangerous work. Usually you would find such a person by being involved with other shady characters. If you are lifting that much product that you can not easily sell it by yourself you need to change your tactics. I can give you more details if you want to post what kind of product(s) you are trying to offload.

To clarify... when I use dangerous I mean it in the context of your freedom not physical harm.

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black_fox moderator wrote

Locking this for being off topic. Should’ve been posted to f/AMA. Will keep up for any useful information.

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