Submitted by Datguy in Illegalism

I was in a Wally today and for the life of me could not find cameras on the isles. It had high rafter ceilings and I could only see some at the registers pointing straight down. And even those were pretty small. I looked pretty hard while out on the floor but couldn’t pick out anything. And none of those new camera tubes that I could see. Is this too good to be true?

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SheStealsEverything wrote

They are there!! They are very small barrel cameras. They are hard to spot and close to the ceiling. Be more careful with these stores

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katsareokay wrote

Can you post a picture of this type of camera? I don't know what these look like.

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SheStealsEverything wrote

Search for the title "can you spot the camera" There is a perfect picture showing how difficult these are to spot on that post. These are Walmart new cameras (p. S. Top right corner)

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Elliebee wrote

I have this in my town. There’s an intense religious culture where I live, so there’s probably less stealing going on. I assume corporate has made the decision to not upgrade my store with new cameras since there are other cities who have higher shrink. Pretty sure there isn’t even LP here, though I do usually lift overnight because of my schedule.

I assume your store is one of these older Wally’s. Maybe not with the same religious situation, but perhaps you’re in a wealthier area where they don’t have to worry about stealing as much to the point they need to install new cameras.

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katsareokay wrote

I also have been in one of these too. I felt the same way and wasn't sure.

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poop214 wrote

there probably are cameras the fact that you can't see them means that they set it up that way

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Datguy OP wrote

I figured as much. Problem there is finding blind spots. There was one of those cameras that’s at about eye level that lights up and records on the fishing isle, but not even one at the emergency exit the isle over from that. I’m thinking of pulling the “calling to ask about LP job openings to get their schedule” move just to be safe.

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j0hn_d0e wrote (edited )

I saw this once in a city where most of the residents are retired and all the hotels are family friendly. The w@lmart mostly had cameras in the front by the registers, no face level cameras, and cameras outside directed at the fire lanes. There was about 1 camera for every 4-5 aisles and the garden section only had a metal fence maybe 6 or 7 feet high. I was surprised since I'm used to 1-3 cameras in every aisle, face level cameras, cameras on the light poles in the parking lot, cops parked in the front, and cages covering the entire garden section.

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Brockhampton9830 wrote

Was it a Walmart Neighborhood Market? Crime Rate?

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Datguy OP wrote

It wasn’t no. It has a good size produce section but I believe they have it listed as a supercenter online. And nothing is locked up really. I think the only thing I saw was spray paint and a small glass case of flea medication. They had everything out; drones, hard drives, knives, you name it really. I feel like it’s way too good to be true

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Brockhampton9830 wrote

take advantage of it, but don't overdo it. Like don't go beyond your felony limit in your state.

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i_buy_shit wrote

Do you know the age of the store?

I know Walmart/Sams has spent an insane amount of time and money to upgrade security across every store. If you have noticed any changes in paint color, the floors moving to bare but clean concrete, and the addition of the small dome cameras placed at the entrances then the store likely has new cameras, recording systems, and software.

Walmart has shrink reduction from 2018-2020 as one of their main corporate objectives. Security is also attached to that. Walmart has a huge issue with crime, besides theft, occurring on their property. All of this has made upgrades a huge priority for every store.

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i_buy_shit wrote

One other thing to factor in is Walmart losses 3 billion a year to theft. Basic economics says to pay up to, and maybe equal, a loss and even spend more if it will offset future loss. Just think about that number for a second. In a fiscal year it makes business sense to spend 3 billion dollars to help stop theft. At 4,769 stores that averages out to $600,000 and change per store for security upgrades.

There is no fucking way a retailer is going to put 'expensive' merchandise within reach of a customer without doing something to protect their asset. This is basic business sense. They are not going to do this to 'bait' a lifter either.

My guess is that this could be a beta store. They have most if not every item in the store tracked via RFID. This store has been upgraded with cameras that track particular items when they are disturbed from the shelf.

You can read more about this by googling "Walmart forces suppliers RFID". Back in 2003 Walmart was talking about forcing every one of their OEMs to put RFID in packaging. By 2006 it did not pan out but Walmart continued with this initiative. By 2010 Walmart was self tagging every mens denim and underwear. Walmart pushed RFID so much they have their own technology that provides RFID to other companies. And this shit was nine years ago.

I talk a lot about walkouts, I have, and continue to do walkouts from Walmart. But I do know my days of doing so are numbered. The more locations I visit I see that Walmarts are integrating gas stations in their lots. They roll out cameras to street lights. I know for sure that some of those are pan/tilt/and zoom. The gas stations have cameras. They then have two points of vision for capturing your face, plates, and any other data. In some instances Walmart has also started buying their own real estate. That clears them to do whatever the fuck they want on the entire premise, do at their leisure and to whatever extent.

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Undertheradar wrote

I have looked at the ceiling at the Wally's near me for a long time and have never seen anything that looks remotely like a camera or anything posted here. Of course this is a smaller, older store in an affluent area so that might be the reason.

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