Submitted by extremecouponing in Illegalism

So my parents aren't into the whole lifting thing. I've kind of been trying to figure them out without giving myself away, and so I know now that they are not into it.

However, sometimes they will send me out to go get groceries and I will lift on their behalf anyways, because groceries are super easy. I usually give them the money back later without them knowing, but my question is, do yall think that's ethical? Furthermore, would it be ethical to keep a little bit for myself? My parent are upper middle class, if that changes your answer. They have money to spare for sure, though I don't necessarily need it that bad either and would be content continuing to give it all back. Thanks everybody!

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zx1300 wrote

I'd personally say it's unethical because of the fact they don't want you doing it. So lift for yourself, not for them.

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Scullingpointers wrote

Holy shit dude. We’re in the same boat. Lol. I do the same for my parents. I get them some nice shit. Got my mom a robo vac recently. Working on getting them a nest thermostat

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extremecouponing OP wrote

Yeah, but do they know about it? Mine don't, which is part of the hang up

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Scullingpointers wrote

They strongly suspect it at this point. Iv been doing it for about a year. The only reason is cause my dad is one of the most perceptive people Iv met. He will notice EVERY detail of EVERYTHING. My regret was not renting a storage unit and store it there till I figure out how to give to them.

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Selmartine wrote

Well if you, for some reason or another, aren’t bothered by the morality (or lack therof) of lifting, the I say that it is as ethical as you are going to get. If you think about it, your parents give you cash and tell you to get groceries. You are doing what they tell you to do. I mean, you are doing the work of lifting, right?

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Scullingpointers wrote

And risking his life basically in order to help them? I love my parents enough to do it.

Regarding ethicality, there are factors involved. The one thing I do say definitely is it’s a very noble cause. And with morals, I NEVER feel guilt about stealing from Walmart. But certain stores, esp with cool ass employees, sometimes the guilt will hit me enough where I’ll never lift at that specific store again. Maybe even buy ( GASP ) something when I go to make up for it.

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i_buy_shit wrote

Is it ethical... I would say no. Look at from your parents perspective: what would they say, how would they feel, what would be the repercussions if you were caught? I would have the opposite answer if you were honest with them. My wife and I lift together. If anything were to ever go south we are both fully aware of the risks and we openly communicate about it. The lifting is not the point of ethics, nor is keeping any of the money; you lose the ethics battle because it is built on a lie of omission.

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extremecouponing OP wrote

This is another good point. I think that you're right, bit I also think that actually buying things from large companies who have exploited thousands of workers is pretty unethical as well. Weighing the two against each other, I'm definitely leaning towards continuing to lift for my parents but idk still. Gotta meditate on it some

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esco88 wrote

I do that for my mom sometimes, she usually tries to give me money to pay me back but I never take it. Now if my dad wanted me to do that, hell yeah id pocket the money

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I_won_It wrote

When I used to borrow my dads truck, his only rule was to replace the gas I used. That was easy rule to follow back in the day when gas stations didn't have all the cameras. I was a good kid and filled up his dual tank Chevrolet truck everytime. I would warn him he may not want to stop at a certain gas station for a bit. He got mad the first time, but when he got laid off he use to ask me to borrow his truck lol!

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Throwdown321 wrote

if they are upper middle class, probably 100k+ income each? they can afford all pseudo-green life(all organic, meats,,,,etc). stealing technically isnt ethical, when you or your parents can afford it, it just ruins it for the ones that need to steal for food,,etc.

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ThinOakSlump wrote

sometimes they will send me out to go get groceries and I will lift on their behalf anyways,

yep i do this because my mum doesn't have that much money

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