Submitted by A_Plus in Illegalism (edited )

I needed to post this after a person in here mentioned how a shoplifter can sue a big retailer due to a false stop or harassment. I LOVE this story because it looks like like Lesleigh Nurse, a white woman, used the self check out to steal about 180 dollars worth of groceries at Walmart, got caught, and still successfully sued them for millions. She told them the self-checkout froze when they caught her. Have any of you used that excuse before? I may have to use that if I'm approached or busted. haha She got arrested, the case went to court, the court threw out the case, Walmart still sent her a civil demand letter saying they want 200 dollars so she sued them and won.

It always brings a big smile to may face when LP or employees treat shoplifting as if you committed 1st degree murder, rape or a crime against a minor and then see the actual law dismiss or disgregard it. If you want a good laugh, go over to reddit's loss prevention page and see how they get angry when the shoplifters they catch end up gettin a slap on the wrist. hahaha Do these dummies not understand that law enforcement has to deal with murders, shootings, assaults, etc. and will never place a high priority on someone shoplifting 150 dollars worth of stuff??

If you have been on this forum for a while, we are told to ignore civil demand letters from these companies if you get caught shoplifting, this case here shows that civil demand letters don't mean shitttt!! LOL at Walmart losing the case and still sending civil demand letters, that's a whole new level of stupidity. hahaha

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metocin wrote

my kind of uplifting news

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deeppurplehazedream wrote (edited )

used the self check out to steal about 180 dollars worth of groceries at Walmart

I believe her story. I've had all sorts of problems with cash-type machines, like ATM's not giving me the correct amount of cash, self-checkouts not printing, etc.. And importantly here, the judge threw the criminal case out on Walmart's flimsy claim.

...the trial featured testimony that Walmart and other major retailers routinely use such settlements in states where laws allow it, and that Walmart made hundreds of millions of dollars this way in a two-year period.

I hope Walmart has to pay her the full amount. I presume most of the 2.1 million are punitive damages. These civil suit threat letters sound like nothing more than extortion. But, of course, it's legal and appears to be quite profitable for Walmart. Most people aren't going to spend the time and effort to fight Walmart (and other retailers) through the legal system. I think because I wander around stores like I'm in a capitalist wonderland I feel like I'm being watched. I think what I'll start doing is act "suspicious" and waste the LP's time or whatever. Not much I know, but still.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

. I think what I'll start doing is act "suspicious" and waste the LP's time or whatever. Not much I know, but still.

I do this too. It's quite fun. Pro tip use a backpack instead of a cart or bag.

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flingwingin wrote

btw is it illegal to move items around? i spent my black friday moving expensive things in target to other areas and acting suspicious, very fun and relaxing

10/10 recommend

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GoodOldWorkingClass wrote

It's a stupid thing to do if you're aiming to be a successful shoplifter, because in that case the last thing you want to do is draw attention to yourself; that much should be obvious, ... if you're not smoking something.

As for it being illegal, there's no shortage of catch-all charges in criminal codes, anything from defacing property to just garden variety mischief. Not that it matters. You are on THEIR property so if you trash it they're within their right to ask you to leave, and to kick you out if you refuse.

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A_Plus OP wrote

I agree, why would you want to intentionally piss off or troll LP and security who may have a weapon and could physically harm you. Some of these LP and employees take the job way too seriously and are looking to pounce on anything that is slightly suspicious. All of us here hate LP, but our goal is to lift as much as possible without getting caught, not play childish pranks on LP.

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MrGanktastic wrote

IMO The Civil Demand Letter is nothing more or less like scumbag predatory lending. That being said, I rarely go in that place. It's full of stinky people and white trash. That was referring to the employees as well as the clientele,

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