Larde wrote
Actually, Pol Pot wasn't a communist. Pol Pot is to anarcho-primitivism as Stalin is to anarcho-communism. Like anprims, his goal was to abolish civilization, he had no problems with creating millions of deaths in the process, and he absolutely hated disabled people, as well as intellectuals. Like the anprims, he called his ideology communist when it was just another death cult. The only difference between the anprims and him is, Pol Pot wanted to use the state in order to remake society in his own image. The anprims don't want to use a state to achieve that goal.
And everyone should know he was backed by the CIA, so why would the CIA help to spread communism?
lori wrote
Pol Pot is to anarcho-primitivism as Stalin is to anarcho-communism
Something to be entirely rejected as the anti-thesis of those ideas?
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote (edited )
Like anprims, his goal was to abolish civilization
Anprim isn't prescriptive though?
And what anprims call themselves communists!?!?!?!?
Larde wrote
Anarcho primitivists pretend to be anarchists (communists), it's right in the name.
lori wrote
pretend to be anarchists (communists)
ah, Kropotkin, inventor of anarchism. nobody was anarchist before he declared property is theft and communism is anarchy. all other so-called anarchists are pretenders
Larde wrote
Do you mean Proudhon? I suppose Mutualism was a primitive form of anarchism, but it didn't really take off until later.
lori wrote (edited )
I'm making fun of the idea that all anarchists are communists. Mutualism wasn't a "primitive form of anarchism", it's anarchism. Just as all the other non-communist anarchisms are. It's such a weird idea to assume that only communists can be anarchists when there's been... so many non-communist anarchists that clearly do exist.
And given those exist, the title "anarcho-primitivist" doesn't at all imply communist ideas.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
it's right in the name
You poor thing.
Larde wrote
I don't follow, sorry.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
It's in the name.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote (edited )
And everyone should know he was backed by the CIA, so why would the CIA help to spread communism?
Helping yourself by helping your enemy so you can vanquish your enemy and then help them all over again.
Larde wrote
Name one incident in history where the CIA helped actual communists to amass power.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
If you can say baseless bullshit so can I.
Larde wrote
lori:
[citation needed]
https://www.thoughtco.com/pol-pot-1779833
"he oversaw an unprecedented and extremely brutal attempt to remove Cambodia from the modern world and establish an agrarian utopia."
lori wrote
An 'agrarian utopia' isn't anarcho-primitivism, it's perhaps the exact opposite. Agriculture, so far as I'm aware, is something opposed by the major anarcho-primitivist writers.
Larde wrote
It's a society that reverts back to before the industrial revolution so it's the same thing.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
You have literally no idea what you're talking about, keep going please.
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