Recent comments in /f/HackerNewsOuttakes
fortmis wrote
Reply to comment by NoPotatoes in "Rules that govern public spaces do not require the consent of everyone. (The alternative would be absurd.) The elected governments of San Francisco and California HAVE consented to this, on behalf of the people." by NoPotatoes
Hahah I don't think they read the forum title
NoPotatoes OP wrote
Reply to "Rules that govern public spaces do not require the consent of everyone. (The alternative would be absurd.) The elected governments of San Francisco and California HAVE consented to this, on behalf of the people." by NoPotatoes
Lol I can't tell if the down votes are because people don't like the take or do like the take.
Fool wrote
A fair bit of "new age" belief is based in humanity being superior and progressing towards some sort of divine achievement through a critical mass of people and knowledge. And because they're "beyond good and evil" the suffering of the masses is but unenlightened talk that is due to not following the teachings of the divine, and not something to worry about.
roanoke9 wrote
Reply to "Society is a complex mix of different genetic pools that mix like water and oil." by NoPotatoes
I don't claim to be perfect or even good, but I sometimes wonder, if I had lucked into "success" somehow would it have turned me into a piece of shit bootlicker like this? Always something to be grateful for I guess.
SnowCode wrote
Jesus fucking christ xD
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catachresis wrote
Reply to Don't protest ICE by NoPotatoes
entirely defund the police, or abolish the entire DoD
Good idea!
Fuck ICE
NoPotatoes OP wrote (edited )
Reply to "If 1 additional person falls overboard every million man hours worked but everyone gets cheaper shipping, do I care? No, not really." by NoPotatoes
The people defending this comment are just as bad:
One is trying to shame someone for not making the purchasing decisions they would make:
It's easy to see why that looks "selfish," but it's less easy to see the distributed effects of higher prices, fewer jobs, and less efficient markets so that you can sit remote from all of it and declare yourself to be more ethical than your neighbor.
And of course the other brings up "but we live in a society":
Everything has a price. You can’t have much of a society without creating risks of injury.
existential1 wrote
Reply to So this would be a very HN thing to do... by NoPotatoes
I wonder if there's a more libright/ancap site than hackernews?
mima wrote
Reply to Study claims link between meat abstention and depression and anxiety... funded by a beef interest group by NoPotatoes
And even then, correlation is not causation. There are definitely other factors contributing to the depression. Stigma first comes to mind.
lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by moonlune in Cw: csam; Startup ideas: *NN GANs for photorealistic-but-legal child porn* by NoPotatoes
I'd say the difference is that one I make believe and one is real. One is glamorizing pretending to be siblings and the other is glamorizing raping actual kids.
I have no experience with rape personally but I do know violence.
In my experience as someone who has enacted and inflicted plenty of violence personally the arguments of fictional violence desensitizing one to violence doesn't hold true. No matter how hard you try fictional violence isn't real.
I do think however video depictions of actual violence ala LiveLeak, local social groups being okay with it and the kind of violence I was commiting saying that is was ok made the transition from a non violent person to someone en acting it on a fairly regular basis made the transition far easier and normal and probable was what made it possible.
So my guess that isn't proven is that if you are watching children get raped, paying children to get raped, having out in communities which glamorizes raping kids makes it easier for one and incentives one to abuse children by making is seem more desirable.
And from the knowledge from criminals when you want to get knew employees to commit crimes for you who are normally against crimes and or not commiting crimes it's way easier once you get them agree to work for you one time.
Often times it's only possible to get someone to agree to that first ask if it's more benign. Asking someone to take a package to a friend's house is quite common.
And once you have someone on your payroll doing deliveries it's easier to get them to do a delivery openly saying it drugs or having them drive you to a drug deal or possibly even sell drugs to you.
It's more complicated than that but the point is that I see the act of paying for child pornography to be one of the first steps to legitimize raping a child. It's easier to pay someone to view them rape and child and incentivizes them to rape more children than to rape a child personally. But once you have payed for a child to be raped I would image it's way easier to rape one yourself. Hell I can already come up with legitimizations. "Well I already cause children to be raped if I do it myself I can reduce harm by being nicer to the child and not physically abusing them or get the child to 'consent' which makes it way better than no consent."
I could be wrong but I would doubt people beating off to kids getting raped has no effect on their opinions on rape of children.
Edit: so I guess my point is that if you watch two concerning adults pretend to be engaging in pedophilic actions I would be far more sceptical of it making people more likely to become child abusers. But the mere act of viewing actual child abuse rather than pretend child abuse makes a big difference.
NoPotatoes OP wrote
Reply to comment by moonlune in Cw: csam; Startup ideas: *NN GANs for photorealistic-but-legal child porn* by NoPotatoes
I don't have any studies to rely on, but two ideas seem probable to me:
- watching pornography reinforces neural reward pathways for that specific imagery
- all media consumed, including pornography, contributes to the socialization of an individual and the establishment of societal norms
moonlune wrote
Reply to comment by lettuceLeafer in Cw: csam; Startup ideas: *NN GANs for photorealistic-but-legal child porn* by NoPotatoes
CW: CP, rape
Yeah all imagery of the rape of children is inherently harmful to some degree.
Does "regular" rape/non-consentb porn increase sexual offenses? It can be found everywhere in most of the incest porn tropes for example or in the kink community.
I know watching porn isn't great for one's sex life and so on, but if there were anything pointing to porn making people rapist, it'd probably be well known. Incels maybe?
If regular rape/non-consent porn isn't harmful, I don't see why it would be different for CP.
lettuceLeafer wrote
CW mentioning rape of children.
This idea seems like a poor idea as it's based on actual pictures. But the idea of people who want child pornography paying artists to make incredibly realistic child porn is a massive improvement over paying people to rape children to make child porn. Tho I still think pedos viewing Loli porn of adults who can concent and aren't innocent children but look incredibly young is even better.
Yeah all imagery of the rape of children is inherently harmful to some degree. But fuck, selling the drawing seems like such a better alternative to people paying to have children raped. This whole anti all harm reductive CP rhetoric seems like a bad idea to me as it actually discourages strategies to minimize the rape of children and does nothing to actually prevent people viewing and creating real child porn.
emoticons wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted27729 in "There is nothing scalable about eating foraged fruits/food. Modern populations would starve without modern agriculture" by NoPotatoes
But humans are not animals /s
existential1 wrote
Reply to "There is nothing scalable about eating foraged fruits/food. Modern populations would starve without modern agriculture" by NoPotatoes
Also has apparently never seen a yard in the west. Replace all grass with edible foods...we'd literally have too much food almost instantly in the West. Depending on where you are in the global south, they already are sustainable or recently were before forced industrial culture.
existential1 wrote
Reply to comment by NoPotatoes in "People are naturally born poor. Nobody told the Chinese or Africans to create that many poor people." by NoPotatoes
HN is where you can view unfiltered ancap opinions being upvoted like they're actually solid takes. Fun popcorn reading.
NoPotatoes OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted27729 in "People are naturally born poor. Nobody told the Chinese or Africans to create that many poor people." by NoPotatoes
Just some random user on HN. You can see the username in the link.
fortmis wrote
Reply to comment by NoPotatoes in "Rules that govern public spaces do not require the consent of everyone. (The alternative would be absurd.) The elected governments of San Francisco and California HAVE consented to this, on behalf of the people." by NoPotatoes
Although the sidebar does say this
but the quote kinda speaks for itself