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rot wrote

the only way to become 'sustainable' is to lower our consumption. we cant maintain growth and ecology

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Pop wrote

sounds like you're going for a kind of pro-civ approach
I'm interested in these from anarchist positions

have you engaged with the arguments around how cities tend to be growth-oriented and so cities are unsustainable?

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rot wrote (edited )

not really. I just started to get into anti-civ arguments and I tent to agree that society is unsustainable, especially cities.

basically we need to move from civilization to un-civilizition not necessarily in the sense that we need to go 'back' to hunter-gatherer tribes but that something new can be built.

Ed: i think "pro-civ" would be thinking that everything would be fixed by windmills ans solar collectors

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Pop wrote (edited )

Cool, I just couldn't tell from looking at a few of your posts

hopefully we'll get a few more prociv people here to engage on these topics

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rot wrote

from the little bits that I've heard their defense is that technology will fix the problems i't created, we just need to wait for the engineers to find it

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roanoke9 wrote

Almost the entirety of the internet is pro-civ, lmfao.

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