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exvegan wrote (edited )

In some places they stopped eating bush meat due to the Ebola epidemic and instead switched to eating dogs from farms but the dogs were also highly infected with Ebola. All animals can be infected with diseases, domestic and wild.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Yeah this is clearly only within the framework of profits that something as wasteful as flying planes (during pandemic lol) would be needed. Just pay your workers a living wage commensurate to the labour you're asking for. Oh you can't? Well maybe we need a different economic situation then, lol

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celebratedrecluse wrote

As far as the authors, here is their info for anyone who wants to start checking them out to see if there are any suspicious characters. Robert at the bottom is part of a for-profit company, interestingly.

Department of Immunology and Microbiology, The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, CA, USA Scripps Research Translational Institute, La Jolla, CA, USA Kristian G. Andersen

Institute of Evolutionary Biology, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK Andrew Rambaut

Center for Infection and Immunity, Mailman School of Public Health of Columbia University, New York, NY, USA W. Ian Lipkin

Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity, School of Life and Environmental Sciences and School of Medical Sciences, The University of Sydney, Sydney, Australia Edward C. Holmes

Tulane University, School of Medicine, Department of Microbiology and Immunology, New Orleans, LA, USA Zalgen Labs, Germantown, MD, USA Robert F. Garry

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celebratedrecluse wrote (edited )

Interesting, but circumstantial. Wuhan is a bioscience hub in general too, with the equivalent of 22.4 Billion USD in foreign investment (a huge amount of money per capita) as of 2011, almost a decade ago. So I get it. This originally made me suspect it was a foreign engineered bioweapon. https://web.archive.org/web/20140508182523/http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2013/08/27/china-regional-spotlight-wuhan-hubei-province.html

On the other hand, the article you provided does not link to the original study or a translation, and it refers to the study has having "only maps" as data to back up its claims. So we should take a look at that instead of trusting a capitalist newspaper.

Furthermore, there is a study that /u/mofongo posted that recently looked at the virus from a genetic perspective. It had a couple relevant findings. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

While the analyses above suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may bind human ACE2 with high affinity, computational analyses predict that the interaction is not ideal7 and that the RBD sequence is different from those shown in SARS-CoV to be optimal for receptor binding. Thus, the high-affinity binding of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to human ACE2 is most likely the result of natural selection on a human or human-like ACE2 that permits another optimal binding solution to arise. This is strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.

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As noted above, the RBD of SARS-CoV-2 is optimized for binding to human ACE2 with an efficient solution different from those previously predicted7,11. Furthermore, if genetic manipulation had been performed, one of the several reverse-genetic systems available for betacoronaviruses would probably have been used19. However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone

It would be interesting to check the authors for conflicts of interest and associations politically/economically. But if legit, this is pretty negative toward the idea it was purposefully created. Unless you're going really deep down the rabbit hole and theorizing that the virus was designed to appear completely novel, and thus undetectable. Which, who knows? But that's getting away from the evidence we have.

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lautreamont wrote

The Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention is pretty close to the Wuhan seafood market. They have been experiencing on viruses from bats over the past few years.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/17/coronavirus-start-chinese-lab-bats-attacked-scientists-peed-12252873/

The "bats in the Wuhan market" might have been some damage-control propaganda for the Chinese government to save their own faces.

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avbeav wrote

I had no idea that MSG was found naturally in mushrooms:

The second ingredient are champignons. Champignons are well known as a significant source of the – all natural – flavor enhancer mono-sodium glutamate (MSG). So this is really what gives taste to the vegan patties, plus the yeast extract, which appears later in the ingredient list. Yeast extract (to those of us who have lived in Britain, it is well known as Marmite), is another significant source of monosodium glutamate.

Aw, but this one doesn't bleed:

The only burger that “bleeds” is the Impossible Burger though, by virtue of the soy leghemoglobin.

I'm so confused by this. Does anyone here specifically seek out bleeding patties? Why?

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Reply to comment by ziq in Best foods for long term storage by ziq

ziq OP wrote (edited )

depends on the seed. some will last years. date seeds can last centuries. some will only last days and stop being viable when they dry out.

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mofongo wrote (edited )

Coconut water changes flavor when taken out of the coconut, all the commercial water coconut tastes like the water was kept out a bit too long. I rather have the coconut.

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