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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

I had just read another source advocating the 100 grams of fiber today. That seems a pretty difficult target to reach unless you're on a pretty legume-heavy diet. Most other sources of fiber are about 5 grams per cup (0.24 liters) or less.

A few quibbles. I have a friend diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in his late 40s and placed on medication. He was prescribed a Paleo/Atkins diet: vegetables, meat, fish, oils. No grains, no nuts, no potatoes, no legumes, no yogurt, no fruits. After six months he no longer needed medication, his triglycerides are health, his cholesterol is healthy, his blood pressure is normal. If he has a baked potato or a hoagie his blood sugar goes back to unhealthy levels, so it looks like he's on this diet for life.

And not that it's especially important, but my siblings and I have all had the blood test for celiac disease and I don't have it but three of them do. I'm glad for the 'gluten free' craze for their sake.

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CE399 wrote

Not really.

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

Care to add some details to that rebuttal?

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CE399 wrote

I can find different experts to dispute practically every single thing in that article. Nutrition is a mine-field where fads and trends appear and disappear with alarming rapidity.

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

Fair enough. I gave the example of a friend whose health improved on a very-low-carb diet and whose health goes off the rails on a regular carb diet (even just fruit or potatoes) is an exception.

I've got a few other friends and family members with odd medical disorders that require diets that some group or other would decry as very bad.

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CE399 wrote

About 3 years ago I was told by my GP that I was "pre-diabetic". She told me to cut-out carbs (basically Atkins diet). I was sceptical but gave it a try.

It was difficult to give up wheat products such as bread and pasta as well as rice and (very hard) beer. I stuck it for about 6 months after which my indicators had all returned to normal and I felt as healthy as I have ever felt.

Subsequently, I have drifted away from the low-carb regime (we live in an ocean of carbs) and am paying the price. I do intend to go back to it over this summer, the beer is a problem though!

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

Right. Vegan diets avoid animal suffering. Vegan diets make more efficient use of land since you can take the 7,000 pounds of vegetables and grains required to yield 500 pounds of beef or pork and just feed the 7,000 pounds of vegetables and grains directly to people. And breads, pasta, potatoes, rice, and legumes are some of the lowest cost foods in calories per dollar.

Those are genuinely compelling reasons to promote a high carbohydrate vegan lifestyle for everyone. But again, your example and some others stand in a strong contravention of it. I've heard of low carb vegan diets, but I imagine it's difficult.

This was the first hit I found on a web search for low carb vegan, and a lot of the listed items look okay https://lowcarb-vegan.net/vegan-keto-diet/ - but for example my sister is vegan with celiac disease (cannot have gluten) and allergy to soy. So all of the food options from wheat and seitan or soy and tofu or low carb tempeh wouldn't work.