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ruinsociety wrote

Obviously, screw both these rich asses who committed domestic abuse against each other. However, I'm concerned about the reaction towards Heard that we didn't really see with Depp. I don't remember Depp getting the same vitriolic reaction. There is definitely a sexist undertone with Heard we didn't see with Depp. I'm nervous that the sexists now have more fuel for their attacks on women.

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fortmis wrote

omg the texts he sent..... jesus christ

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Potkea wrote

The article quotes him as saying “Hopefully that c*nt’s rotting corpse is decomposing in the fucking trunk of a Honda Civic,” and “I will fuck her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead.”

I haven’t been following this case that closely, but it seems to me ATM that both sides are monsters.

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fortmis wrote

idk exactly, I'm just hearing from people about how he's apparently being witty on the stand ... perhaps a la style de captain jack sparrow

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another_i wrote (edited )

I have personally been subjected to narcissistic abuse by a female. And Amber Heard strikes me as having all the same characteristics as someone with NPD. Your sex and gender do not excuse you of accountability.

With that said, Depp is not without fault. He's a drug addict and shows all the behaviours of a controlling and abusive codependent (the yin to a narcissist's yang).

IMHO: No one should defend either of these rich and smug celebrity assholes.

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another_i wrote (edited )

I agree with and understand your points... No doubt or argument about the discrepancy of power, or men's systematic abuse of women.

My only reaction is that we are all animals, to suggest otherwise is human supremacy. So while I understand your reaction, I humbly submit that I did not intend to offend anyone as "an animal".

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vos wrote (edited )

No, to suggest otherwise is to have a nuanced, decolonial view of the reality in which the concepts of "humanity" and "animality" have been constructed along the lines of race and gender. A statement like "we are all animals" completely ignores this reality, effectively upholding human supremacy. Similar to how your initial comment was misogynist because it completely ignored the misogynist reality of domestic violence.

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ziq wrote

wtf are you even saying

this site is going downhill

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ziq wrote

someone pay me 25k and the site's yours

or better yet, pool your money and buy it as a collective. 5 anarchists with 5k each

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kin wrote

Elon musk just called me and he will wire the money right away...

He wants a place to discuss Martian AnarchoTranshumanism

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ziq wrote

something tells me he'll pull out at the last minute after wasting everyone's time

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another_i wrote

Oh shit. I offended the gods. Guess I'm outta here now. /me delete.

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kin wrote

Cool down, no need to add more to it... people need to knock off this whole ziq=Raddle or ziq is the Duce

Raddle is an effort that involves Emma, TW and many many other ppl

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fewch wrote

'female', wahahahaha, like you fuckin got her chromosomal results in front of u ahahaha

nah but for real fuck off with this codified misogyny shit this reads like i'm still on reddit homey

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lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )

Ugh, I actually feel like I should learn about these celebrities so I can argue with at these people saying both sides or whatever. A rock in a hard place, learn about celebert gossip or let the brocalists day shit unchallenged. I mean I would comment but the bad vibe I'm getting from some of these comments might be fair( prob not) but I know nothing about this situation so I can't say.

My comment is extremely unhelpful but I mine as well say why I'm not engaging as to not be confused as me playing both sides. Tho on some level me not participating still sucks.

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fortmis wrote (edited )

will we ever know anything more than a sliver of what happened, when we are so far removed? And of course JD is going to be "entertaining" in a court room... this kind of performance work is right up his alley!

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AnarcheAmor wrote

Do I think it's misogynist to make fun of Amber for shitting on someone's bed? No. Do I think it's misogynist to treat her like some devil that Depp was just powerless in the face of? Absolutely. I've had to say to people that Johnny isn't a victim of abuse the way regular folks are. He had enough power to stop whatever violence was being done to him and to never have it done to him again. The vast majority of abuse victims don't have nowhere near the same level of power in their relationships. Furthermore, reactive abuse (assuming it was reactive) is still abuse and his participation in it means he's an abuser and makes Amber a victim of said abuse. It bothers me a lot that people see the after effects of a feedback loop of violence and only blame it on one person.

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Anarcat wrote

Because that lady is a liar who has been caught in lies many times

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Anarcat wrote

It isn't what I'm saying, no, thanks for asking.

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Anarcat wrote

You sound like you spend a great deal of time on the internet.

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Anarcat wrote

You seem real concerned with which internet groups, internet acronyms you 'sound like' or align with. Just do your best to think through what sounds correct and incorrect to you, and don't worry too much about that stuff.

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