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celebratedrecluse wrote

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I think that the phrase "the porn industry" includes the sex workers. I don't know how you could possibly read that any other way.

I think this is our misunderstanding. Here is my framework: industries are exploiters of workers' labor, for the benefit of managers and owners. So, industries are sectional beings, fragmented by contradictory interests, and increasingly with globalization and hyperspecialization are also composed of people of wildly diverse and even divergent social characteristics.

Really all I meant to do, is articulate the standard communist critique of work and industries.

I think equating the porn industry with some of the more abusive owners, and disregarding the sex workers, is pretty fucked up, and totally dismisses them & what the people in the industry have to say about it.

I think this is a bad-faith moralization, which misrepresents what I was bringing up to shut it down unfairly. I'm not speaking from outside my experience here.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

They are, and I said something different like you acknowledge now. I guess, my thought is, who cares about the article? I was trying to have a conversation about the topic, which was prompted by your comment rather than the article itself. Perhaps in the future, we can have more open discussion of these issues without letting reactionaries define one pole of it for us, and the options being either supporting some form of capitalism or defending socially reactionary, inherently bad faith critiques of some industry or another. This is a problem which is way bigger than this small and relatively trivial exchange, and is fucking up many different opportunities to discuss something, or for people to even want to participate in the first place in those conversation, which are thing I think you also care about.

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