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uanon wrote (edited )

The article is titled "America's post 9/11 wars" but the body says that "Savell does not attempt to apportion blame between various actors", which sounds like incredibly bad methodology to me. Incidentally, in what world is Syria "America's war"? The overwhelming majority of deaths was caused (and still is) by Assad's fascist regime and its Russian allies, including deliberate bombings of healthcare facilities, which the article mentions but doesn't mention neither Assad's regime not Russia responsible for them, despite the report itself mentioning them explicitly in this context. Or, say, Yemen - another complex war with multiple parties in which the U.S. plays a relatively minor role. The way it's framed is basically war crimes revisionism.

P.S. Why does this sub's description mention so many empires and just omits Russia?

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kinshavo moderator wrote

No problem I can add Russia and any other you miss yhere

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kano wrote (edited )

I would say to a certain extent, Syria could be considered '(US) America's' war, because the invasion of Iraq helped contribute to the instability of the Middle East in general as far as I'm aware. What had been a reasonably stable country became a place where various insurgent groups could form, and at least with regard to Syria, IS was founded in Iraq after the invasion and then later on spread to Syria as well so there's at least one concrete example. and I mean the USA be droppin bombs everywhere as well so why not at the end?

The the author is focused on the USA because they are British and their country also participated in the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11.

Seems to me the point of the study isn't particularly nasty. The researcher wants to highlight the negative effects of war.

P.S. Why does this sub's description mention so many empires and just omits Russia?

Can't answer that, could have sworn it was also included, but dk not a mod in /f/empire

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fortmis wrote

Daesh / ISIS has roots in al Qaeda and the Muslim brotherhood, who in turn can be traced back to Pakistan in the late 80s / 90s ... which can be subsequently considered a ripple of the Iranian Revolution ... all to say America fucked shit up no doubt but it was also already getting pretty fucked on its own. And I agree that calling it America's War seems weird.

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kano wrote

Yea I don't really want to call all the violence referred too as 'America's Wars', I just don't find it bad too try to research and find out the wider effects of wars in general, think this whole focus on the USA in the article is more the from the mindset of the author of the article and not the study.

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