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lettuceLeafer OP wrote (edited )

labor has no intrinsic monetary value. If 10 hours of labor will only get u 1/2 a bagel ur labor was only worth half a bagel. It seems u might be coming form the labor theory of value. Which isn't super relevant as "value" in the labor theory of value isn't really tied to profit from labor.

Since profit specifically means getting more of something than you put in, how are you measuring when a social benefit becomes profitable if it's value is obscured

well, u can make a loss which is a negative profit. Now thats a little silly use of the word profit but the point is that their are clear gains from mutual aid. Most of the people I help seem to think that I gain nothing when in reality that isn't true. I get many things form mutual aid that benefit my life.


grey_jedi wrote (edited )

As you pointed out: a negative profit is a cost, so I wouldn't use profit in your argument.

Based on how you're using the word profit in your further explanations, I think your argument would be more clear if you change all the instances of the word 'profit' to 'benefit'.

In which case I would say, "well yeah there's a reason it's called 'Mutual Aid' and not 'One Way Aid'" lol

Aside from that, the only thing I would critique is the part about relationships being a benefit of mutual aid work, when its something that can happen in any social function where mutual interests align (concerts, workshops, conventions, schools, etc)


lettuceLeafer OP wrote

okay thats fair. Though I think profit is still useful term. If the mutual aid project is perceived as costing more than it benefits it prob will end pretty soon unless the people doing mutual aid think that it has a chance to be profitable long term.