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SpiritOfTito OP wrote (edited )

Reply to comment by Defasher in After fleeing North Korea up to 25 percent of defectors want to return home. "Life was simpler there. They only care about money here". by SpiritOfTito

I don't know. Seems quite easy to say such a thing when safely ensconced within a virulently anti communist and anti leftist society and say you "reject all states" when it comes to imperialism.

Thats just simply a false equivilence. And ignores how the entire world is divided under global capitalism(IE. Into states).

So when it comes to anti imperialism struggles and not wanting disgusting western boots on the ground of iraq, Syria, yemen, somalia, north korea you can simply go:

Yeah but fuck those guys i reject all states.

Must be a very comforting position to take.

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Defasher wrote (edited )

So the solution to imperialism is more states. Gotchya. Because its worked SO well up until now.

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SpiritOfTito OP wrote (edited )

Thats exactly what I said. States eh, cant get enough of them. Yummy yummy states /s

Whilst your putting words in my mouth ill put some in yours: Thanks for saying how good I look today. Its probably the shampoo and a good nights sleep

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Defasher wrote

If you aint saying states need to exist to defeat imperialism then wot?

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SpiritOfTito OP wrote (edited )

You think any nation under the threat of US imperialism should dissolve their states, their standing armies, their methods of hierarchy and what?

Open the gates of their coumtry so the US can fuck them five ways from Sunday, murder 20 percent of their population, steal their resources and then not report it in their newspapers like the did in the 50s and like they refuse to report on the US inflicted famine in Yemen?

I mean sure you could do that and be a principled leftist. You'd also be a dead leftist.

Its not for me to say ultimately how people under the bootheel of US imperialism should organise to protect themselves.

But if i were asked for advice I would say dissolving your state whilst under the threat of the Great Satan would be the stupidest thing you can do.

Again, That doesnt mean I support the organisation of human society into states.

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Defasher wrote (edited )

If the ppl refuse to be ruled then america has nutin to conquer. Decentralised guerilla warfare is the only way to keep the empire in the hole. Centralised power falls in an instant and takes all of us with it.

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SpiritOfTito OP wrote

Well now thats something I can get on board with.

At the same time I cant begrudge people that lived through the horror of the 50s in NK and who have a orange faced gimp threatening to destroy them who turn to their state for security.

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