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IForgotToSayGoodbye wrote

When you put it that way... I guess I'm going with capitalism.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

Born to chill Forced to work

I can vibe

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IForgotToSayGoodbye wrote

I was originally quite sarcastic in my reply... But thinking about this statement, I swear capitalists often say the above statement with the words reversed. It's funny how ideology can be

I hold capitalism as the greatest force of oppression, and would genuinely prefer communism out of the two... But I'm very irresponsible.

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Kinshavo wrote

Is there such thing as PostLeftCommunism?

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

I would certainly consider that an accurate description of what I think about many economic issues.

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_caspar_ wrote

maybe, if there can be an agreed upon definition of leftism and communism, which takes alot of energy to flesh out and debate.

the closest I can think of are the relatively recent currents that have distanced themselves (but not entirely broken away from?) Marx. coming from the lineage of post-68 leftism: SI, Autonomia Operaia, Foucault, Deleuze, Agamben, et al having led to ultra/anti-state communisms. the writings at Ill Will exhibit this.

but Im not sure if any of these folks have entirely moved on from leftism, or if they have, can it still be considered communism? what is communism outside of leftism?

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Kinshavo wrote

what is communism outside of leftism?

This is the question I think, and even if we can't have a clear definition on both, is there any gain in "recuperating" Communism from Leftism? Like trying to do the same they did with Libertarian Communism and Anarchism.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

there is no gain to the marginal in recuperating communism, that is actually the opposite of the goal. however in appropriating communism, one could use it for more interesting ends than reassimilating it into respectability.

There is no point to defending Mao and Stalin-- playing that game of respectability politics is absurd in any country. Instead, it makes sense to use communism to describe things in the present day, in the immediate world, and directly apply it.

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_caspar_ wrote

change one word, and youve spoken like a true individualist anarchist ;)

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

Certainly, both anarchy and communy require and generate a mutualistic autonomy. Only by supressing it wherever these praxes and positionalities take hold, can hegemony be re-established.

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LeninsBestCat wrote

Capitalism is absolutely not collectivist, it's completely individualist. Communism is collectivist...

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