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The Grayzone has some of the better reporting on the 'no genocide' angle: https://thegrayzone.com/tag/uighurs/

The 'no genocide' folks will bring up that 70 countries, including Palestine signed a letter to the UN, saying "What they saw and heard in Xinjiang completely contradicted what was reported in the media": https://ap.ohchr.org/Documents/E/HRC/c_gov/A_HRC_41_G_17.DOCX

For the 'genocide is real' side, the neoliberal subreddit did a good summary:

And there's rationalwiki:

On the left, Gerry Adams and John Pilger have endorsed the Grayzone's reporting: https://twitter.com/johnpilger/status/1364001548485894148?s=20

A lot of this hinges on 'the China Cables', a trove of docs leaked by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists in Nov 2019: https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/read-the-china-cables-documents/ and https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/ – they say that there are secret reeducation camps:

  • "Strict secrecy. The work policy of the vocational skills education and training centers are strong and highly sensitivity. It is necessary to strengthen the staff’s awareness of staying secret, serious political discipline and secrecy discipline. It is strictly forbidden to bring video and video equipment such as mobile phones and cameras into the teaching and management areas and uploading pictures onto the internet"
  • "Never allow escapes" from vocational schools lol

Here's an Indian Marxist-Leninist party saying that China has not denied the authenticity of the China Cables: https://web.archive.org/web/20210216133542/http://cpiml.net/liberation/2020/08/chinas-concentration-camps-for-uyghurs-in-chinas-own-words

Interesting situation with more info still coming out. There's a lot more to it than I can fit here.

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unneeded_junes OP wrote

Thank you so much for your comment. You’ve given me a lot to read, I’ll try and look through it when I can. If you’re able to I’d love to hear a TL;DR but if not I totally understand, it’s a lot of shit to go through.

Interesting situation with more info still coming out. There's a lot more to it than I can fit here.

Have you considered organizing everything on something like a write.as blog post or a pastebin?

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