Submitted by broseph in China

I can't even begin to express how disgusted being here makes me. How can you people be this chauvinistic? Aren't the Chinese human beings? Aren't they deserving of dignity and respect? This really makes me so damn angry.

Conflating every bad thing that happens in a targeted country with the country's government is a consistent pattern of reactionary bourgeois propaganda. Y'all seem to think Xi Jinping is personally responsible for every single thing bad that ever happens in China. It's always Stalin doing this, Castro doing that... Like the head of state is responsible for every little thing happening in a country's borders. It's juvenile as hell. And interestingly I never see anyone here try to blame Biden for America's concentration camps. I wonder why that is.

This supposed radical left community is so endlessly disappointing.

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Hopium wrote

Death to America.

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broseph OP wrote

You say while praising Rojava in your history... A literal arm of American imperialism.

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celebratedrecluse wrote (edited )

I never see anyone here try to blame Biden for America's concentration camps.

What? I did that the other day, others also brought it up. I'm serious:

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/memer/125981/-/comment/202895

Where i explicitly am referring to how people without legal status will continue to be fucked over, ie deported and incarcerated etc.

As for others on the board, and their opinions:

This is the first page of dozens, when you search "Biden" in the search bar on Raddle. Some external links are included, but came from this search engine and had threads on here with comments and votes etc

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/USA/121853/critiquethis-a-biden-win-is-likely-a-bigger-win-for-fascism

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/memer/115430/democrats-every-time-biden-opens-his-mouth

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/chapotraphouse/114066/joe-biden-is-a-rapist

http://3nzoldnxplag42gqjs23xvghtzf6t6yzssrtytnntc6ppc7xxuoneoad.onion/BoKnowsNews/status/1288212348780544002

https://jacobinmag.com/2021/01/joe-biden-domestic-terrorism-bill-capitol-building

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/Liberalism/124968/we-should-be-very-worried-about-joe-biden-s-domestic

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/Millennials/67940/millennials-are-the-most-indebted-generation-they-can-thank

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/Islamophobia/120411/joe-biden-emgage-and-the-muzzling-of-muslim-america

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/Whiteness/116384/joe-biden-s-racial-gaffes-over-the-years-supercuts-707

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/Empire/64738/joe-biden-says-if-israel-didn-t-exist-the-us-would-have-to

There's more, of course. most people hate the guy here, we are anti-imperialist and anti-american hegemony. And definitely anti-biden. There are constant threads mocking biden and those who stan him. A lot of the people are US, but what can we do, it's the english internet.

Now, there are some bad takes on China here, for example some less than trustworthy sources gets posted and upvoted in the past. i had to analyze a couple of those, and present a counter narrative, so i'm not saying you're entirely wrong here on this issue. but this occurs because we have a small community here, and news on that issue is difficult to source well and there's a shit ton of propaganda from multiple directions.

This supposed radical left community is so endlessly disappointing.

Well, I wouldn't really call it left. this is a self-described nihilist and/or anarchist forum. I'm a communist but my understanding is that I'm in the minority. I think if you come into the space with the understanding that you're in the minority, you still find it a useful place to interact with people of affinity and good will.

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broseph OP wrote (edited )

Now, there are some bad takes on China here, for example some less than trustworthy sources gets posted and upvoted in the past.

You literally have admins saying China bad on here in response to a sincere question, it's not even close to being subjective how much y'all hate the Chinese people!!

definitely anti-biden

Ahahahahaha!!!

http://lfbg75wjgi4nzdio.onion/f/Anarchism/121296/-/comment/192676

Biden sucks buuuuut let's support him anyway is not being anti-Biden, sorry. Y'all on here always seem to find a way to excuse rape and other attacks against women. A big proportion of this userbase are literal pedophiles which I know comes with the territory when you cater to proud libertarians but it's still really fucking indicative of how accepting y'all are of rape / misogyny and not just when Joe Biden does it either. Even your own people admit the site is full of misogynistic attacks and your mighty leader was even caught trying to groom a 15 year old girl lmfao.

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NeoliberalismKills wrote

I think when they said China bad they meant the government. We're perfectly capable of separating the individuals born within a certain geographic imaginary line from their authoritarian dictators. Sort of like how you're probably capable of recognizing the US as an imperialistic monster and recognize most of it's citizens have zero control over it's government and in fact many (American Indians, Muslims, PoC, trans, etc) are as equally victimized by it as the rest of the world.

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broseph OP wrote

Are you going to make excuses for him spreading Adrian Zenz lies next?

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ziq wrote

Uighur women talking about their systemic rape has nothing to do with Zenz. The BBC asked him for a reaction quote for some reason, but that doean't erase their experiences.

Denying rape is grounds for a ban.

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broseph OP wrote

So even if it didn't happen and it's all proven lies to create justification for an imperialist invasion of a socialist country... We're not allowed to talk about it? Is that what you're telling me right now? Do you ban people for discrediting Iraq's WMD program too Mr. Alphabet?

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NeoliberalismKills wrote

China has nukes and the economic power to crush the US. There will be no invasion. I won't even address the delusion it's a socialist country.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

You literally have admins saying China bad on here in response to a sincere question, it's not even close to being subjective how much y'all hate the Chinese people!!

I mean, I can't really be accountable for the words or actions of the admins, but I think their position is a little more nuanced than that

searches for any biden apologia on raddle, finds one comment with negative votes

Ok then, don't see what that proves.

A big proportion of this userbase are literal pedophiles which I know comes with the territory when you cater to proud libertarians but it's still really fucking indicative of how accepting y'all are of rape / misogyny and not just when Joe Biden does it either. Even your own people admit the site is full of misogynistic attacks and your mighty leader was even caught trying to groom a 15 year old girl lmfao.

Yeah I didn't like that conversation, there are problems with these sort of things in anarchist and ML spaces. however you literally harassed me for nudes via DM, you disingenous creep. PS your politics are terrible, jfc

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Bezotcovschina wrote (edited )

I have no words. What an ignorant shiteater!

Edit: oblivious is a more fitting word

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broseph OP wrote

Because I said I eat MSG? Amazing.

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Bezotcovschina wrote (edited )

What word describes a person that constantly misses all the point? Yeah, that's you.

Edit: ah, I find the word, it's "oblivious", right?

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broseph OP wrote

You just said I eat shit right after I said I proudly eat MSG...

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emma wrote

do you eat MSG by coincidence, or is that just another part of your Real Communist™ cosplay?

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Bezotcovschina wrote

No, I said it after your comment, where you try to pass a downvoted comment as a common opinion on raddle, and where you completely misinterpret other comments. And you prove it with every comment of yours. Hell, I literally just now have looked up what MSG is.

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Ennui wrote

It’s some funny shit thinking that Western states are all totalitarian consent manufacturing machines but the great Chinese state isn’t even criticizable.

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ziq wrote (edited )

If someone wants to be supreme ruler of a land, they can't really complain when they're held responsible for their government's crimes. Besides, Xi directly initiates Islamophobic and homophobic laws and policies, as well as the capitalist 'reforms'.

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86944 wrote

So when I criticize the US for being imperialistic and running concentration camps it's fine. But when I criticize China for doing the same I'm racist? sure thing buddy.

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GlangSnorrisson wrote (edited )

Nothing says “leftism” like stumping for world powers. Fuck yourself.

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ziq wrote

this but unironically

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GlangSnorrisson wrote (edited )

That’s true lol you can definitely interpret that comment one way or the other.

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