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NOISEBOB wrote

Reply to comment by LucidDreaming in Is it worth it? by LucidDreaming

Thank you. I think what is way more giving is “spreading anarchy” in your local environment; bigger chance that your neighbours will be sympathetic to your cause than a handful of nazis in their own echo chamber.

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Majrelende wrote (edited )

Not at all.

I do have a speculation: maybe it would have to affirm their beliefs in incrementally shifting ways. Say they're white supremacists, then keep posting things in a positive light about traditions that might push their comfort a little, like borderline "white" people that maybe aren't on their radar. Surprising things, like ancient European society and permaculture systems, that could lead into parallels between ancient Europeans and other indigenous traditions, slowly bending and breaking their sense of superiority. Then maybe they would start getting a little into indignation about how these fine traditions were ploughed over by "impure influences" or other such BS. Then to take the momentum of this indignation and dig deeper a little bit, then a little more. I'm sure they would still need a foreigner scapegoat, emphasising the indigenous European ancestry, then keep laying a little bit of information, a little more at a time. Begin parallels with the subjugation of other indigenous peoples, not their main scapegoats but people they haven't heard enough about maybe to have feelings against. Slowly, gradually, never against the grain, but never with it either. Not asking questions, just bending the rules until they bend the other direction. Eventually if this isn't just a fancy of mine, then they should be talking about the "savage" statist conquerors lording over the "civilised" anarchist societies. It'll be ridiculous, but what could one expect?

I don't think it is worth the effort though. It would be demoralising and laborious to go through and measure the bigots' reactions to the information.

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rattledlove1139 wrote

Almost definitely no i think
"Good" case get attacked and shut down... if people so far in that join specific right wing platforms then need lots more to make change and at that point probably would not happen because so surround and trench

talk about environment lead people like that down to "disabled people should die" and economy "poor people should starve" and police "black people should obey" and so on so on. They think all justify already. Maybe someone not yet decide what feel could benefit but those people almost for sure not even there they would still be "neutral" places

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MatthiasEllis wrote (edited )

Hi there! Well, I'm very fond of this ancient practice. I love that it helps me gain insight into my personality and sometimes explains my feelings. Furthermore, I'm convinced that the alignment of celestial bodies at the time of a person's birth has a direct influence on their life. Besides astrology, I'm into psychic reading. These are the ways I try to understand my life, thoughts and future events. So when it comes to supra natural powers, I'm all eyes and ears. I'm curious to find out about your opinion, though.

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AnarcheAmor wrote

Only if you eat them while living, eating dead meat only bolsters the slaughter industry and carnism culture so you have to eat them while there are still alive. Just drug them so they don't feel pain and everything's good.

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Fool wrote

I think what they're trying to say, is by the doctrine of Science, Pain is defined to be related to a specific form of neuron based process. As such, by their definition of pain any pain like discomfort experienced by plants should have a different name, because it doesn't use the same mechanism.

I'm not saying that Plants cannot be conscious, I'm just trying to discuss why devout believers of Science have a hard time.


Side thought:

In a way, pain would not be beneficial to plants from a survival perspective. As their defences are largely passive or reproductive, and they do not have capability to move away from danger. A disrupting process like pain would just be noise with no benefits to the plant.

Animals that don't feel pain don't tend to survive too long, because it is a self care mechism. On topic, Mollusks with no capability for movement would have no use for pain.

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Majrelende wrote (edited )

Edit: We should live with uninhibited compassion, not eat whoever we wish as long as we can suppress our compassion for that being! I really miscommunicated that, and deserve some of the ridicule that came. Now my response and explanation would be more complex after the discussions that came out of this post.

Having natural emotions means retaining our inclination to compassion and not suppressing it. Speciesism and all other forms of bigotry require the repression of that compassion in order to function.

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256 OP wrote

Reply to comment by Majrelende in opinions on eating cats? by 256

Do cats piss poems?

Appreciate the contextualisation. Reflectively, a lot of texts seem indeed as territory-marking.

Piss off, they'll say and I'll remember reading territory.

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Majrelende wrote (edited )

If we are able to let go of our speciesist tendencies, then we can come to the conclusion that cats do have their own forms of written communication. That is, marking one's territory. While the urethra rather than the hand is used to write, and the nose rather than the eyes to read, and, of course, their writing is nowhere near as complex in terms of expression of ideas as our own, we should not expect, as some do, that their conceptions of writing are directly comparable to our own, nor that conceptions of written language which differ from our own should not be given equal respect.

A hierarchical ranking of cats' territory-marking as inferior to human written language would be unwarranted, and false.

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Antarchtic wrote

I'm not so sure, but since plants are in constant unimaginable pain maybe we should stick to eating plants just so they don't have to suffer here in this world for very long.

But idk, just go with what feels natural. I know some people feel more at peace slitting a stray cat's throat for dinner, so it's probably fine to add a little to your diet if you're okay with it.

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