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celebratedrecluse wrote

A racist rejecting critique

You mean, a disagreeable fuckwad doubling down on being a disagreeable fuckwad?

I wasn't speaking to a racist who wants to add more racism to their podcast, I was speaking to someone interested in computers who feels shame about pursuing their interest due to the absolutist discourse they hear around them.

Ironically, you are the person in the conversation yearning for a universalism that can be applied to all situations-- not me. Which is part of what I was criticizing anarchist discourse for.

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

I wasn't speaking to a racist who wants to add more racism to their podcast, I was speaking to someone interested in computers who feels shame about pursuing their interest due to the absolutist discourse they hear around them.

I know. I was taking issue with the framing. I'd rather you'd said what you say here than 'do what you want', because doing what you want will always circularly depend on whether a person considers an action to be oppressive or not. OP was trying to figure out whether the action was oppressive or not so that they could find out what they want so that they could do it.

Ironically, you are the person in the conversation yearning for a universalism that can be applied to all situations-- not me. Which is part of what I was criticizing anarchist discourse for.

I think there are ways of doing ethics that involve applying meta-critiques of fixed transcendent universals. I would prescribe that to someone interested in anarchic practice. I don't think that this is the same as vulgar universalism at all.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

framing

OP provided the framing, i did not try to add anything besides that they are experiencing shame that is clearly social in nature

universalism

You assumed i meant something transcendently universal, so you critiqued it with that in mind. I'm pushing back on that because this is an inference on the reader's part, not the speaker's.

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