Why anticiv?

Submitted by Utopian_Anarchist in AskRaddle (edited )

From what i understand, civilization is the stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced. So, why do you oppose these things? Also, what do you mean by civilization?

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Splinglebot wrote

how do you decide what is "most advanced"? by who's standards?

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Utopian_Anarchist OP wrote

By our current standard, also i don't feel like we are talking about civilization with same definition

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nbdy wrote

Saying “our” in this context gives me a pretty deep insight into who and where you are on the world. I can’t imagine many of the people bleeding and dying to give the “first world” an image of being advanced are really sold on that same notion.
Nor would I agree that we are at a stage of particularly deep culture. I’ve recently been working through braiding sweetgrass and to compare what we call culture today to anything shared in that book makes me feel incredibly sad.

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jouissance wrote

You've been reading through Braiding Sweetgrass too, eh?

I'm on the final section of the book now, and you're absolutely right. The soul-sucking emptiness of the dominant culture makes me suicidal every time I'm faced with it, and that's every single day. I don't know what to do, I've been in despair for more than half a decade now.

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bloodrose wrote

Why does "most advanced" = best?

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Dumai wrote

the fact that you think there is a "stage" of human development that is "most advanced" (suggesting that others are "more primitive") is already reason enough for me to oppose whatever you're calling "civilisation"

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ziq wrote

Because anarchy is the rejection of authority and civilization is the biggest and most destructive authority of them all. The others are all just offshoots of civilization.

The only thing that's advanced is the decay.

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L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote

The only thing that's advanced is the decay.

What I like about change is it both necessitates and defeats the purpose of hope all at once. Things could always be worse. Things could always be better. What better time to start than NOW.

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SomeIconoclast wrote (edited )

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nbdy wrote

You need to strip that last character from the link

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SomeIconoclast wrote

Done. Thanks.

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ziq wrote

also in the future you can make the link work on both tor and clearnet like this:

[link](/f/AskRaddle/84107)

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SomeIconoclast wrote (edited )

in the future

As in I can do that now and you're telling me that for future reference or is it a feature that hasn't been implemented yet, but will be? Good to know either way.

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ziq wrote

it's a feature we've had for ages, you can do it now

link

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celebratedrecluse wrote

My grandma's parkinsons is advanced, I don't know that we want to join her in that experience however

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Chylan wrote

My views are still forming on the subject, but nonetheless, I'll try to describe it.

what do you mean by civilization?

Basically, "white man's burden". Civilization is a power (and an excuse) one use to subjugate others. So, it obvious why I oppose it.

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registrant wrote

Civilization does more good than harm but it does a lot of harm. However, part of civilization is raddle.

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