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Reply to comment by Mance in Do you support democracy? by J7383

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Mance wrote

Anarchism only works for the young, fit and strong. That disabled 20 year old guy in a wheel chair that needs traffic lights to work and be obeyed, accessible buildings and such..........unless your under 25 and healthy I can't imagine who would truly pick anarchism. there are no hospitals in anarchist societies.

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ziq wrote

there are no hospitals in anarchist societies

That's ludicrous. Anarchists actually take care of each other, unlike American liberalism where you don't even have free health care.

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Mance wrote

An anarchist does not have the ability to produce the sophisticated education, regulation, and taxation systems required to create a sophisticated health system. I care deeply for my neighbour: if he breaks his arm or develops lung cancer I can't help him.

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ziq wrote

a "sophisticated health/education/regulation/taxation system" is the problem. It's built on ever-climbing costs, resulting in denying care to people who can't afford it, not actually caring for people universally. If you need to be rich to get care then your society has already failed because you can only get rich by climbing over everyone else. It's a fundamentally unequal, predatory society where you have to sell your soul to get into the position to be considered worthy of care.

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Mance wrote

Aye, I know what a book is. I read lots a stuff without a stranger telling me at what pace to read at. But even if I somehow manage to teach myself to be a medical professional just my reading books myself, it would be pretty useless, because without a hospital, all the sophisticated equipment, and the logistical supply chain required to keep a hospital constantly supplied. But hey, good luck in your anarchist utopia with self-taught health professionals.

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Mance wrote

The hospitals wouldn't disappear, at least not initially. They would decay over time and become gradually unusable, without planned maintenance, supply and upkeep. Nothing would prevent anarchists from keeping a hospital, but they (being anarchists, eschewing central planning and organizing) would do it in a random, haphazard way, which would be useless.

And it's not just hospitals. Any kind of infrastructure that requires foresight and planning would gradually fall apart under anarchists. Sewer systems, highways, the internet.....all would continue to work for awhile, then gradually fall apart. in 30 years we would be back to medieval times.

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ziq wrote

medieval society was highly centralized / hierarchical and unequal, so no.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

Anarchism only works for the young, fit and strong.

and sex starved.

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ziq wrote

Anarchists have more sex than anyone I know.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

Prove it.

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ziq wrote

no u

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

In short the social schooling system failed you so badly you need me to make the argument against myself. And if possible spell your answers too.

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ziq wrote

because only the rich should be allowed an education? real classy. if social schooling fails it's only because the rich deliberately decimate it.

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