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surreal wrote

Yes totally! what's even worse is that it's a part of every culture under capitalism and most people define their well being according to their 'freedom' to consume. Some critics go as far as to consider consumerism a form of violence.

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Defasher wrote

This hits the nail on the head. Consumerism indoctrinates us into an unsustainable lifestyle where our needs can never be satisfied because lumps of plastic are no substitute for living.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

So consumerism is a person. That has a will. And you still escaped. So why bother about this consumerism guy?

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

So me buying a new phone because the old one has a battery that lasts only one day is violence against whom? Or what?

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Defasher wrote

Yes. Every resource on this planet is limited and rampant consumerism ignores that.

We don't need luxuries, just the necessities.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

The gulag was the perfect example. The researchers were put in close quarters so they could reach the lab on foot. They were required to grow their own food. And they ate what they were producing. Meaning famine sometimes, but mostly eating locally grown produce. Sadly, not many relevant discoveries were done. Do you have any idea why?

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Pop wrote

Why are you asking?

I doubt you could have imagined many people saying it is good around here

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zod wrote

I think blaming consumerism for the state of the world is awfully close to blaming the dog for getting fleas.

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jadedctrl wrote

It's not the cause, but it's totally one of the more damaging symptoms.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

You should shoot that dog, as it becomes an infection vector. Or at least cut all its legs so it does move less.

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ziq wrote

Being a consumer isn't bad because it's the only way to survive in a lot of urban areas, but consumerism itself is designed to keep us down in the hole.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

In the hole of having enough to eat?

In the hole of knowing how to read and write?

You should be more specific.

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carl_curtis wrote

Excessive consumerism is bad but i still feel comfortable buying things i like.

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_deleted____ wrote

Noooo. Consuming goods should never be something that we oppose, civilization depends on our ability to get what we need (and what we want) easily. Capitalism's fall shouldn't take away our ability to consume.

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sudo wrote

I think you misunderstand - consumerism is society encouraging people to buy as much as they possibly can - far more than they actually need. You could still consume goods without consumerism.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

A couple of centuries ago, in the White World called West, people who were not relevant were not able to eat enough to survive. Having enough for all, meant obesity, diabetes, and the oh so terrible end of famine. But that also made one ignorant farmer be able to become Super Farmer, and cultivate far more land with a far more productivity and also be able to read and write. So is it better to go back to the day when one person was barely able to generate enough food for one person per year in exchange for a whole year of work?

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sudo wrote

Huh? I didn't say anything like that.

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ConfettiEggnog wrote

"bla bla bla... far more than they actually need"

Meaning a peasant will have after a year of work about a year of food.