Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

BristholD wrote

−12

[deleted] wrote (edited )

8

BristholD wrote

The milkshake throwers aren't the government oppressing you

That's assault, end of the story. Which is not the same as "making fun". And they do it because they don't like free speech. Neither fascists. If you result in an assault to make a point then you lack the argument against fascism or whatever, to begin with. Free speech means that people can't legally assault others just because they don't like what you think and say, that's what antifascist governments are supposed to enforce.

−7

[deleted] wrote

6

BristholD wrote

Oh, If you can't handle free speech at all, because you think that assault is better than real arguments, then you don't belong to a civilized society, to begin with.

Some might say, If only the Jews had milkshakes, rather than actual rights, they could have stopped the Nazis... Of course, whoever claims to fight against fascism that way can't be taken seriously.

−4

[deleted] wrote

5

BristholD wrote

their ideas are fucked up

Then show it with real, logical, substantiated, real arguments. What's the problem? Unable to? Does a milkshake have more brains than you? Hard to believe.

suppressing every other speeches that they disagree with

Are you talking about yourself or do you actually understand why free speech is important?

−3

[deleted] 0 wrote

4

BristholD wrote

The state can't imprison you but I'll sure throw a milkshake at you.

Oh really? so you claim to have the right to assault people. Why don't test your theory and assault the next policeman you see with your milkshake? Let's see how it goes.

That's assault and the state won't protect you for that. That's because the state, in a civilized society anyway, will protect free speech, not your chimpanzee assault.

And yes, people will face the consequences of their free speech, but only within the context of freedom of association. Intimidation by any kind of physical assault has nothing to do with freedom of association and everything to do with oppression, yet another step towards fascism.

−4

[deleted] 0 wrote (edited )

5

surreal wrote

i'm here for the freeze peaches, they are delicious

2

ziq admin wrote

chimpanzee assault

this is a warning for racism.

4

BristholD wrote

Only a racist mind would associate chimpanzees with race. And that's not me btw. Your failure to comprehend that is not my problem.

−1

ziq wrote (edited )

Only a racist mind would associate chimpanzees with race. And that's not me btw. Your failure to comprehend that is not my problem.

No:

Your alternative is a barbaric society of chimpanzees.

You said this. It is straight up white supremacy.

Calling people "barbaric chimpanzees" for not being "civilized" is racist towards anyone that doesn't fit neatly into your glorious European civilization. You're calling them subhuman for not living up to your destructive exploitative culturally-bankrupt lifestyle.

3

BristholD wrote

It is straight up white supremacy

Only if you assume that whites and Europeans can't behave like chimpanzees. (Hint: they can). And, you can only assume that if you have a racist mindset. That is, the same underlying racist mindset that the white supremacist has. It doesn't matter if you are white, this kind of assault is nothing more than chimpanzee-like manifest behavior.

your destructive exploitative culturally-bankrupt lifestyle.

Your alternative, that barbaric society of chimpanzees, is not my cup of tea. You shall not prevail.

−2

hasbrochem wrote

assault the next policeman you see with your milkshake

pretty fuckin' well actually, fuck off MURIKKKA bootlicker

eat shit

1312

4

n_n wrote

Does a milkshake have more brains than you?

That's ableist you piece of shit. You are just a fascist troll.

4

BristholD wrote

Just asking, since there's lack of rational arguments and just a milkshake

−4

hasbrochem wrote

Yes, you're the only logical one here, clearly. Please tell us more about how woke you are. We're soooo interested to hear your fuckheaded dipshit opinion that had no basis in reality of marginalized and neglected peoples/communities. Woke centrist torpidity. Hahahahaha!!

4

hasbrochem wrote

do you actually understand what free speech is?

fixed the question that you should be asking yourself because from your "logical arguments" you clearly do not. also, this isn't fuckin' MURIKKKA!!!! (or klanada, or asstralia or ukkk or whatever country you want to claim you're from) so your dipshit way of thinking doesn't apply to the rest of the world. fuck off fascist piece of shit.

4

BristholD wrote

If you are from a country where freeze peach is not really protected then I guess that you don't have the choice but to say whatever you have to say. In other words, I'll take your "opinions" as worthless and a total waste of time.

−5

hasbrochem wrote

yes you are worthless and a waste of time, close minded fuck

4

[deleted] wrote

3

BristholD wrote

A random murderer killing you is not the state either. What a silly rationalization. Morons throwing milkshakes is assault and illegal.

−3

n_n wrote

Morons throwing milkshakes

Stop being an ableist dipshit. This is the second time that I tell you this.

4

[deleted] wrote

2

BristholD wrote

useless debate

That's because you lack real arguments, hence you would result in the mindless assault.

Legally free speech is the government won't throw you in prison for saying whatever you want.

Legally, the government will throw you in prison for assault. Reaffirming that way free speech rights for people.

What you want is for people to be able to say all kind of bigotry in public like it was something that should be defended.

Yes, I do want my free speech right to respond and debate them whenever I want. Censoring, assaulting, intimidating others will infringe MY free speech right to debate them. So, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

If someone in your home want to murder you

Don't confuse speech with murder because that's an ignorant and dangerous false equivalence. The kind that leads a step further towards fascism and other oppressive hells.

−1

[deleted] wrote

1

BristholD wrote

I'll be more precise

Don't confuse speech with murder, that's an ignorant false equivalence.

−1

[deleted] wrote

2

BristholD wrote

Throwing milkshakes at people = Assault.

Offensive speech != Murder

You fail logic at the most basic levels.

−1

[deleted] wrote

1

BristholD wrote

No, you are just trying to equate speech you don't like with physical violence. Again, a false and ignorant equivalence. Also, throwing milkshakes is assault, end of the story.

Illegal threatening speech is not about misinterpretations of controversial art, radical political opinions, and bad jokes. Free speech protects the provocative from being hemmed in by the prudish. Your attempt to squash free speech with assaults based on a false equivalence is disgusting.

−2

Kalysta wrote

Pretty sure that people who share a political ideology with Hitler gave up their right to free speech a long time ago. Because you're using your free speech to try and oppress everyone else around you.

4

BristholD wrote

Because you're using your free speech to try and oppress everyone else around you.

You will have a very hard time trying to argue that free speech tantamounts to fascism. Free speech is anathema to oppression. That's the whole point of free speech. Censorship and assault of ideological basis are by definition oppression. Failure to comprehend that is the failure to be civilized, so there's no real distinction between you and fascists in this regard.

−3

n_n wrote

Free speech is anathema to oppression.

Then hate speech is not free speech because oppresses people. Failure to comprehend this make you an apologist for oppression. So there is no real distinction between you and fascists in this regard.

4

BristholD wrote

Yes, because throwing milkshakes is "love" speech. A demonstration of "love" for a fascist. The idea that you may restrict speech expressing ideas that offend … strikes at the heart of free speech. Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express “the thought that we hate"

A law that can be directed against speech found offensive to some portion of the public can be turned against minority and dissenting views to the detriment of all.

That's why this kind of assault is illegal and shall remain as such in a civilized society.

−4

n_n wrote (edited )

Yes, because throwing milkshakes is "love" speech.

Who is saying that it's speech? You are talking about free speech, fascist didn't use free speech and weren't "assaulted" because of this.

but the proudest boast of free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express “the thought that we hate"

I don't care about liberal nonsenses like "jurisprudence" or "freedom of speech".

A law

Now that's a ridicule notion. Almost as ridicule as your notion of a "civilized society",

3

BristholD wrote

Who is saying that it's speech?

Well, it is not. It is assault and illegal because we are supposed to live in a civilized society.

Almost as ridicule as your notion of a "civilized society"

Your alternative is a barbaric society of chimpanzees.

−3

n_n wrote (edited )

illegal because we are supposed to live in a civilized society.

Lol you realize that almost all are anarchist here don't you?

Your alternative is a barbaric society of chimpanzees.

Do you think that indigenous societies and their ways are "a barbaric society of chimpanzees"?

4

mofongo wrote

Lol you realize that almost all are anarchist here don't you?

And one with the highest concentration of post-civ and anti-civs in the internet at that. No post praising civilization will go well here.

4

hasbrochem wrote

Because we're going to let fascists like you dictate how we choose to fight. Cry me a river and turn that carmel shake you're covered in into a salted carmel (ah hahaha, that pun will never get old!).

Wah! Wah! I can't have freeze peach cuz mouth is full of ice cream!!! That's right fuckface that's us taking away your "rights" almost the same as murder or actual violence.

I can totally see where you might be confused.

3