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manc wrote (edited )

I liked the bit where he sabotaged the logging equipment. I didn't like the bit where he maimed the receptionists

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ego_mutt wrote

Bad methods, inconsistent ideology. Not a fan.

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Basil wrote

One of my friends has mentioned him a few times, saying "I agree with his message, I disagree with his methods"

I'm not an an-prim, so I disagree with his message as well, and agree more with his methods, though those still aren't as good.

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ziq wrote

He's not an anprim either, he's a Maoist.

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bloodrose wrote

I'm guessing the methods you are agreeing with is violence and terrorism as a way to affect change. Which I get. But I think Ted's point wasn't to actually make change. I think he was doing it to get published. I wonder if he would've needed bombs had he had the internet.

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selver wrote

Did you read that recent essay by Dark Mountain on here about him? I think they made a pretty good defense of that point. He got his whole manifesto published in the New York Times or whatever, that's a reach you could never get otherwise.

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bloodrose wrote

I didn't but that's a good point. That's a lot more reach than anyone online.

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manc wrote

How many people do you think read beyond the first paragraph? And how many people do you think read it without absolute contempt for the writer and his writing? He'd already blinded people by that point. All in all it was terrible praxis and imo he seriously hurt green activism

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ziq wrote

Read his most recent stuff or you won't have a good grasp on his politics. He's a Maoist.

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bloodrose wrote

Fun fact: my dad was an anti-civ mountain man who lived in a shack in the woods. When the manifesto was published, his siblings were freaking out, thinking he was the unabomber.

I've actually not read anything of Kaczynski's. My husband has and tells me it is full of misogyny and would piss me off. I knowTed is not an an-prim and has actually written against anarcho-primitivists. There is a weird meme culture around him in some an-prim spaces and I don't know what to make of it. Like, is it good because it is making people question civilization and what place they have in the world? Or is it just a bunch of aggressive folks who like violence?

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heckthepolice2 OP wrote

Shit, your dad sounds way cooler than my dad

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bloodrose wrote

He was only so cool. I had to hear stories about him because he left and never came to see his kids. But I do enjoy telling the Kaczynski story. :)

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Fatcocklongcock wrote

Bad theory, bad praxis. He’s still quite stannable, however, and I rocked his flair on the old chapotraphouse over on reddit.

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Mango wrote

Some of his writing was ok. The rest sound too ideological. Can't blame him, being locked for life in a place like Supermax will drive you wild.

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trappingskinless wrote

he's real funny to post about but not much else

some good ideas but you gotta sift through the shit for it

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neverinNJ wrote (edited )

There is an exhibit case on him at the Postal Museum in DC. (Free). Not having a car was one of the factors made him hard to catch. Living in a cabin meant no neighbors to see his comings and goings . (Actual cabin is in the Newseum in DC.) His brother (Buddhist) read the manifesto when published and told the authorities about him. So someone following a doctrine not to harm lead to the arrest of someone that was the opposite viewpoint. While there may be points in his manifesto worth reading, behind the words was an man that brought about unnecessary harm to others. (Many were in the wrong place at the wrong time.) Killing 3 and harming 23 lest we forget.

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ploopt wrote

I don't know that there's anything interesting I could say about what he did, but I think it's worth looking into the specific focus of his ire, which was the emerging field of cybernetics. The Net - The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet is a great documentary that explores the historical forces that led to the creation of the Unabomber. Cybernetics is a recurring theme in Adam Curtis' work as well, and the second part of his film series All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace is worth checking out as well. Looking back from this point in history, I think it's safe to say that Kaczynski had some incredible foresight.

I'll try and keep the tinfoil hat off of my head, but I think it's worth mentioning that he was almost certainly a subject of the CIA's MKUltra mind control program. This is likely an important part of his story, but when we venture into these topics it's impossible to distinguish the signal from the noise.

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote

anti-humanism is stupid

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Negation wrote

says the person who thinks rape is funny

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote (edited )

Yeah that's a real rich accusation coming from an actual rapist

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Negation wrote

I can link you to it since you seem incapable of remembering anything beyond your last breath.

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote

I'm frankly surprised that you don't remember that time you personally, intentionally caused an 8 car pileup on the highway and walked away laughing, but I suppose such things are normal to a monster such as yourself.

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Freux wrote (edited )

Don't you think it's fucking vile that the "joke" is about making people believe that you think rape is hilarious?

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote

I've changed my mind, Kaczynski was right, anti-humanism is good, and the internet, which is a technology for helping people cope with their own powerlessness by setting up little peoples' courts and prosecuting others for making a joke they don't get, was a crime.

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Freux wrote

Explain the joke I don't get.

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote

Gladly.

The joke is, some Goofus comes up and says something along the lines of "how can you like the podcast 'chapo trap house'? do you just really like laughing at rape and misogyny?"

Now, this is obviously a leading question, a cop-brained trick of accusing someone of something outrageously awful based on a false premise (in this case the premise is that the podcast is based on laughing at rape and misogyny), with the expectation that accused will deny the accusation, but accept the premise.

The joke is that I subvert this expectation by ironically accepting both the accusation (which is designed to be unacceptable) and the premise (which is false, but which the petty officer does not want questioned). Essentially, instead of apologizing for something someone else imagined, I twist the trick around and proudly proclaim my guilt.

Hope that helped!

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Freux wrote

If the show is having rape "joke" and misogyny, it sound legit to ask why the fuck people are listening to it and dedicate a forum to it. So your defense is that appearing like supporting rape "joke" and misogyny is funny and we should all laugh at your edgy-ness.

The question wasn't even directed at you but to someone else and yet you felt the need to reply that rape "joke" and misogyny are hilarious.

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote (edited )

yes, if that were the case, it would be. but it's not. glad we cleared that up and we can all move on with our lives instead of, for example, spamming someone over and over with the same comment in unrelated threads.

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Freux wrote (edited )

"Nick: If you’re listening, Scarlett Johansson, go fuck yourself, we’re going to comment on your body, Weinstein-style, baby."

Oh look, what kind of 'humour' is this?

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote

wow really fucked up that Nick Mullen, head of the Chapo Trap House podcast, would say that on the podcast. you're right, the forum should be deleted.

Anyway, back to Uncle Ted, does anyone know how to make a mailbomb?

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Freux wrote

You haven't answer the question.

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote

the answer is he's not a host on Chapo and i don't even listen to Cumtown. fuck your questions, officer. go jump in a lake.

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Freux wrote

Thanks for an actual answer, my bad about the quote. Too bad that he's friend with the Chapo's crew and some of them featured on Cumtown. I guess pieces of shit get along.

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Hhhhhhhhhhh wrote

People with privilege will never understand what it’s like to live in a world where rape is an everpresent threat. To them it’s so foreign that it becomes laughable, the lack of empathy is disturibing, but it’s created by design.

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Hhhhhhhhhhh wrote (edited )

What? I just made an account here because somebody linked it in a Discord chatroom. I was trying to agree with you.

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote (edited )

the logic of capitalism and patriarchy isn't "vulgarity" you simpleton. norms of civility have historically been used by the ruling class to control and police the working class, and by men to police women. Go be a goddamn tradcath if you love guilt and propriety so much.

christ this is why i'm flippant with you idiots. I don't care about whatever lib shit you read on Vox, and I'm not obligated to explain in detail everything that anyone vaguely associated with a podcast I enjoy has said to children. Get a hobby. Join an org. Burn down a courthouse. Do anything with your time other than playing police in online comments sections.

Edit: lmao you literally moderate the egoism forum how are you going to get mad at vulgarity you fucking servile coward

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HumanBehaviorByBjork wrote

"Don't say swears or hurt anyone's feelings" -St. Stirner the Pious

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