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sudo wrote

Pssh, we don't want to control you, we want you to control you. You sound like one of those people who will say "We need to do X," but will then denounce every plan to actually do X.

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BlackFlagged wrote

Seriously tho fam, why do you think communism requires a transitional state when it's never worked before?

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SpiritOfTito OP wrote (edited )

Not op but not a single anarchist movement has lasted beyond a few years.

Really existing communism however took an agrarian peasant nation to the second super power of the world, defeated nazi Germany, first man into space, first woman into space and launched the first satellite into orbit.

Hell, even the non stalinist state of Yugoslavia lasted until NATO dismembered it in the 90s.

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Defasher wrote

State capitalism isn't 'really existing communism', sorry bruv,

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SpiritOfTito OP wrote (edited )

State capitalism is an appallng reduction of the USSR.

They effectively got rid of the private profit motive and surplus value of labour. If your analysis of the ussr is state capitalism its a poor analysis.

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sudo wrote

They all worked perfectly well, until foreign capital interfered. And Cuba is still going strong despite interference.

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sudo wrote

Because how new your cars are are the only reasonable measure of the strength of an economy. Come on. (And besides, they're getting new cars from China.)

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sudo wrote

Ah yes, socialist economies are the real greedy ones. I suppose antifascists are also the real fascists?

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sudo wrote

The economy isn't based on making money.

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