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fairilu wrote

It's not just people who voted for Trump, anyone who supports the existence of the government in general is responsible for the things the government does, regardless of whether "their guy" is the one in charge of it or not.

You can't erect a giant murder machine in the hopes that it's going to be used "responsibly" and then shrug your shoulders when someone starts using it in a way you don't like and be like, "Well I didn't want him to be the one controlling it."

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heckthepolice wrote

This. You can't just vote for Hillary and wash your hands of all this shit. Anyone not actively fighting against domination is responsible.

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

So what kind of active fighting against domination do you think we should be doing?

I want to change things but I'm not ready to grab a gun and go blast some politicians. Is that what you're doing (not that I expect you to confess on a public forum)? If not, then what?

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heckthepolice wrote (edited )

To be honest, I don't actually do a whole lot. And yeah, that makes me a massive hypocrite. I really am trying to get more involved, but I don't really know how. It certainly doesn't help being in a town where I am literally the only anarchist.

Like, I have a general idea what direct action can look like. And I really think we can be using a diversity of tactics. So I guess the answer to what kind of fighting we should be doing is "whatever you can".

Squat abandoned buildings if you can. Do guerilla gardening if you can. Do Food not Bombs if you can. Throw molotovs at cops if you can. Make agitprop if you can. Make music if you can. Distribute zines if you can. Slash the tires on ICE vehicles if you can. Write to prisoners if you can. I don't think there's really any set formula for what resistance should look like. Even little things can be a good start.

Edit: Oh, and for some ideas and instructions for various types of direct action I'd recommend the CrimethInc book "Recipes for Disaster". It has a lot of useful information

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

I appreciate your honesty. We have to start somewhere.

I am relatively new to anarchist ideas myself, and when I bring it up in conversations about politics I get blank stares. I guess I need to work on my oratory skills. Everybody agrees with me that bureaucracy is a corrupting and inefficient thing most of the time, but when I make the argument it's inevitably, inescapably corrupt I lose them.

I'm not at the point where throwing molotovs at cops is an option. I'll try to get involved in little things, though.

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heckthepolice wrote

Glad to hear it comrade. I'm working on getting involved in the little things too.

Oh, and I'd recommend checking out if there's an anarchist bookstore/infoshop or other anarchist space in your city. That can be a good place to meet like-minded folks and learn about ways to get involved.

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go1dfish wrote

This ^

Arguing that coercion is being used for the wrong ends is not a valid defense.

If you accept the violence of government; and especially if you attempt to direct it to your own benefit you are absolutely responsible for the disastrous effects of that violence and coercion.

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