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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Gay and angry.

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mustard wrote

autonomous egalitarian or insurrectionary nihilist or chaos communist

because i don't know anything and everything means nothing

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Cheeks wrote

Fuck your arbitrary limitations. Lol

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TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote (edited )

"not this", because I dont know what I want, but I know what I don't want

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ziq wrote

Anti-civ because civilization is the root of all hierarchy, and thus oppression.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

There was actually a few books written on this recently debunking that. I'll dig them up, but it might take me a second.

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amongstclouds wrote

I'm curious to see this debunking lol.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

I wish I could remember the names. I'm still waiting to hear back from a friend. But the gist from what I remember is that early city style communities we're largely egalitarian, and the shift to more strict power hierarchies was due to various invasions by outside forces. It's not to say that civilization can't lead to power hierarchies as it clearly has, just that from an athropological perspective, power hiearchies aren't necessitated by civ.

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ziq wrote

strict power hierarchies was due to various invasions by outside forces

Well, no shit. When you establish a permanent settlement and agriculture you need hierarchy to defend your private property. Before agriculture we were nomadic and had no use for private property and thus no use for building hierarchies to legitimize and defend that property.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

Look I'm not very good at explaining it, it was briefly explained to me by someone with a PhD in anthropology and I'm sure my parroting of it was lacking and devoid of meaningful context. I know that's the obvious answer, and if anticiv could be debunked by a comment online then it wouldn't be around anymore. I felt that was fairly obvious.

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amongstclouds wrote (edited )

The fact you have to mention they had a PhD means nothing and is just an attempt to basically say 'haha, you're dumb if you think otherwise.'

The hunter-gatherer tribes you mention aren't necessarily a part of what we're defining as Civilization. Organization itself is NOT civilization. We see animals all across the planet that organize themselves, but where is there civilization? They simply don't have it because civ implies social hierarchies, where there is a master and slave class, and this only came into existence when humans began settling down and growing crops and consolidating power. Why else do we see so few truly egalitarian communities?

It's because the idea that one can domesticate the land, resources, and people below them in the name of P R O G R E S S and C I V I L I T Y... at the barrel of a gun or the tip of a sword.

We're not 'civilized' and we never have been. Maybe post-civ makes more sense, but it's all the same. The current mode of power relations on this planet ISN'T WORKING.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

Alright well clearly I'm not portraying what I'm trying to so I'm just gonna quit responding. I was actually trying to state that I'm not super equipped to re explain it. I get what your saying, nor am I disagreeing with it. But cool, have a good day I guess?

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bloodrose wrote

Anti-civ. Kinda an-prim as I see no other alternative to civilization.

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GrimWillow wrote (edited )

unrelenting Anarchism

Because I will fight until we are all free from the chains of authoritarian oppression. Every day I am more radical than the last, and I have a certain purpose in my life more clear than ever. I aim to be yet another beacon of resistance in the midst of class-warfare/colonialism. As more people realize that only horizontal organizing can be trusted, and that we live in a context of patriarchal white supremacist transphobic homophobic hetero-normative colonial domination, our intersectional solidarity based projects will be a life raft in the tsunami of this industrial sickness of techno-fascist civilization. I aim to end it until I die.

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Emery wrote (edited )

Hmm... let me think... No, don't go away, I'll think of some-- oh, you don't care? whatever. I'll just go too.

But seriously, i'd describe my politics as "meaningful politics"