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bloodrose wrote

I mean, this is an argument against theft of products. What about squatting? Or illegal foraging? This argument is only good for "don't steal x-boxes". And since you don't value said argument, I'm sure you don't mind me pointing out its weakness. :)


ziq wrote (edited )

There's really no way to make a good argument against illegalism. That was the best I could do and if someone said it to me I'd instantly poke it full of holes. Being against illegalism is like being against survival. Any argument would be coming from a place of extreme privilege. No better than people who think no platforming fascists is counterproductive and we should debate them instead.


rot wrote

It sounds like the argument is that illegalism isn't good praxis. It isn't a good argument because how can you tell if it's good until you see the effects? Is squatting less effective than going into the wild to live? Idk? Probably not but who knows?


bloodrose wrote (edited )

But you can't go into the wild without squatting now. When everything is owned, not purchasing something is illegalism all on its own. It's illegal to dumpster dive. It's illegal to sleep on the streets. So mere existence outside of the machine is illegalist.

Btw, I think we're all agreeing with each other. :)