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lookin4 wrote

It is easier for me to list and for you to read the following to determine what I don't want to study but am allowed to by law. Also it has a side effect: it keeps the list short)

  • business administration / management
  • computer science

As compulsory education is over for a few years now and I am an adult I would like to study free and independent for my whole life, but not because of a future degree that comes into sight after a few years.

There is so much interesting to experience and to learn - strictly speaking I like the generic idea of schools but not their "design" (like the admission requirements, the costs, bureaucracy, duties, hierarchies between teachers and students, potential elite setting and so on)


OldHippieChick wrote

Fuck Jeff Bezos and every crapple fanboi on the face of the planet; steal this book here instead:



lookin4 wrote

Thanks for introducing me to John. It seems that nearly his whole work was translated, but "Never too late" not. Did you read it? Would you say it is written to be easily understandable by those whose first language isn't english?


OldHippieChick wrote

I've lived it for over 30 years and have no plans to buy a financial aid advisor so I can become "normal" any time soon.

John Holt made an effort to use simple English that could be easily understood by non-native speakers. Of course "Never Too Late" was not one of his more popular works, because the subject matter was adult learning and the historical context was "the space race", which is analagous to the US' current ridiculous educational policy of "staying competitive with China".

You should be fine if you're able to access information from Nonfiction English children's books written at the fourth grade level. This would be intended for a nine or ten year old neurotypical child.

If you're not quite there yet, it's still some simple and reasonably pretty English to study. It's been so long since I've read it that I can't remember any specific little gems like "Birds fly, fish swim, and children learn." but he's full of them and you'll find the right Easter Egg at the right time.

Feel free to PM me or email me at riseup (same username) any time you want to geek out. Mr. Holt's literary heir exists and Arvind Gupta and I did steal this for you but I'm not sorry and I don't care.

His message is more important than the money: it's not too late. Education is not something that can or should be bought and sold.

It is not advantageous to society as a whole to deliberately create an ignorant underclass.

May or may not be able to pull a few strings and piss off a few people enough to steal a copy in your native language if it exists, but no promises and not likely to happen particularly promptly, just lmk if that's a rabbit trail worth sending a demon dog from hell to chase down. ;)