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amongstclouds wrote

WON'T SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THE CIS!?

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OrdinaryRooster wrote (edited )

The what? Isn't that an insulting name for ordinary heterosexuals? I call people what they prefer. Just to be polite. If people want to be called black or African American that is the term I use. If they want to be called Native Americans or Indians those are the terms i use. Pretty sure ordinary heterosexuals never chose to be called cis. So it's rude of you to use the term. If you are determined to divide people based on their sexuality, I think straight is the preferred term.

But as the right plays "divide and conquer"with the left, you help them.

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amongstclouds wrote

Next time try NOT deleting your homophobic and transphobic comments before playing victim.

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OrdinaryRooster wrote

Why not. I didn't want to leave anything when I was banned. But I did leave one comment. The straw that broke the camel's back. Being downvoted for agreeing that a bird picture was nice. This reminds me of when the righties came to Reddit and started Brigading leftists like me. I remembered them following me around and giving about 50 downvotes for saying "that's nice" on an obscure art sub. You're no different.

You can do what you want. It's your forum. If you just welcome anarchists and LGBT people you're allowed to do that. BUT TELL US. You have about 20 active members and ziq does most the posting. And I could have helped raddle to grow. Like I did Reddit. Cause I have the "here, read this" gene. But I see raddle is just for a tiny number of people. Your choice.

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ziq wrote

The way I see it, when someone tells you something is offensive you have 2 choices.

  1. Dig your heels in, lash out at everyone around you and leave in a fit of rage so your ego will remain unscathed and you won't have to change anything or suffer the mild embarassment of admitting you were wrong.

  2. Listen to the marginalized people who are expressing to you that they are hurt by your choice of words, engage in self analysis, grow as a person, use the experience to better yourself and your community.

Which one of these 2 choices is worthy of a leftist who wants to foster a better world for all?

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ziq wrote

Calling heterosexuals 'ordinary' is kinda like calling everyone that isn't hetero abnormal. You keep putting your foot in your mouth like that and idk if it's on purpose or not.

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amongstclouds wrote

Do you know what cis means?

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OrdinaryRooster wrote

I looked it up and I did notice it wasn't a term straight people chose for themselves. But a term that has been inflicted on us without our being allowed to reject it. Sort of like the n word was inflicted on people without them being allowed to choose.

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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

So you feel that the suffering of people being referred to as cis, is equivalent to the bigotry and pain the N-Word carries for Black people. I'd say something about False Equivalence, but that term feels mild, sort of like describing the slaves brought to America as involuntary immigrants; no matter what way you put it, it's a gross understatement of the horrors they went through.

In any case, the way you can flat-out type "cis," but cannot type out the N-Word in its entirety, does convey that one term is seen as a far greater slur than the other.

Contrary to your beliefs, cis isn't a term solely for straight people. Cis is the counterpart of trans. If you identify as the gender chosen for you, you are cis. Cis and trans are referring to gender identity, while Hetero or LGBT refers to sexual attraction. A Straight man can qualify as cis, but so can a Gay man. There is no slur about it.

In any case, given the many pejorative terms we've given Transgender individuals and the fact that Transgender people have the highest suicide rate of any group and are more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than any other minority group, I don't think them referring to us as cis is quite the crime against humanity you make it out to be. Due to persecution from cisgender society, a transgender person's life span averages out to be in the neighborhood of 30-35 years. So forgive me if I don't feel that being called cis is the worst possible offense ever.

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retiredaccount wrote

ordinary

Sorry, I'm just as ordinary as you! And for reference, it means 'comfortable in skin' i.e not trans. Nothing to do with heterosexuality.

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

  1. I'm cis, and I'm not offended by that label, and I feel welcome here.

  2. Should we put on the wiki for 90% or so of Subreddits that only non-anarchists and cis people are welcome?

  3. You won't be banned here for expressing an opinion. If you're banned, it's because you're trolling, being rude, or both.

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ziq wrote

As far as I can tell no one banned them, unless it was a 24 hour ban that has since expired.

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throwaway wrote

You won't be banned here for expressing an opinion

That's simply not true. People have been banned time and time again for expressing opinions that didn't sit well with the rest of Raddle. You've been here for a long time, you must have noticed.

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ziq wrote

people are banned for violating the terms of service (almost always after being given a dozen chances to stop doing it)

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Ant wrote

** anarchists and LGBT and shoplifters.

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OrdinaryRooster wrote

Good point. The most popular forum is how to steal. I tried to tell myself it was just from evil corporations. But a few days ago it was how to break into houses.

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ziq wrote

Is it really so unreasonable that people with nothing would want to take some property from those who seemingly have everything?

This is the environment capitalism creates. The vast majority get nothing while the privileged few have more than they'll ever need.

'Crime' is a completely logical response to the rampant injustice and suffering perpertrated on us by the wealthy so they can maintain their advantage.

I tried to be super patient with you, to tell myself you were new to radical politics and could learn to overcome your biases if we were patient with you, but you keep making the most ignorant, bigoted comments about people that suffer with far less privilege than you. Defending homophobia, then transphobia, USA nationalism, scorning people for being lawbreakers... you call yourself a leftist, but you're really not. Even a lot of liberals would be aware enough to know the things you've been saying are fucked up.

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ziq wrote

I tried my best to welcome you, but you're obviously going to continue choking on your own privilege.

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supernice wrote (edited )

I'm a straight/cis/whatever male and I don't feel unwelcome in the least. I also don't feel like the term cis is offensive. I think straight is though, even if it's not the intent. It implies everyone else is crooked right (something wrong with them, not normal, broken, etc.)? Not sure why you feel this site is only for Anarchists and LQBT. Yes I'm an Anarchist, but not LGBT.

Having so many articles posted representing the views of LGBT people is enlightening, to me at least. The amount of positive exposure on any meaningful level they have in global society is appalling.

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Pop wrote

I'm a loaf of french bread and I feel welcome here

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buzz wrote

are you an ANARCHIST or LGBT loaf of french bread? if you answer no to a or b, by the TOS you are banned from raddle

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Pop wrote

fuck I'm banned

well not really since I'm gay as fuck and anarchist as a loaf of french bread from May 68'

but yeah I can feel that ToS coming after me as we speak

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retiredaccount wrote

The Terms of Service don't say that, and given you're not banned, that's not true.

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ziq wrote

Did I miss something or is this really just about you being informed that meme was homophobic?

The mods didn't even remove it afaik.

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amongstclouds wrote (edited )

They deleted comments telling me that's being trans is a choice and that women should do so in order to take advantage of male privilege.

Like this is just some game.

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ziq wrote

Oh yeah, I saw that :\

I just wish she would listen and try to understand why it's hurtful.

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theblackcat wrote

Most epic rage quit ever "I'M OUT (because someone gave me a downvote for agreeing that a picture of a bird was nice EXACTLY LIKE RIGHTWINGERS DID TO ME ON REDDIT)".