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GrimWillow wrote

Done. Looks like a little troll brigade popped out for an attack using the shared accounts.

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retiredshared2 wrote

trolling isn't a violation of the tos, there has to be a vote for this

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selver wrote

Fuck off, shared accounts don't get to be used for meta discussion.

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GrimWillow wrote

It's just a group of people coming out to harrass ziq on the shared accounts with useless shit like calling him a liberal for no reason and context. You really want those comments back? Do you think that this kind of harassment was worth keeping in this thread? It's not like they're banned or anything. It was essentially a shitpost that didn't contribute to anything except more animosity and drama...

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retiredshared2 wrote (edited )

This kind of enforcement has never been in place before, it's funny that now ziq is the victim it is.

There has to be a vote to remove the comments and action taken in /f/TrollDissection whether this behavior is acceptable or not because that's the process that raddle has always used unless there is blatant tos violations.

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GrimWillow wrote

Nah, I'm just new at admining, and maybe it's a mis-step on my part. This was literally the first comments I've deleted, and it had nothing to do with the fact that it was aimed at u/ziq (though he does seem to have a little group targeting him). Seemed like an obvious thing to me to remove shitposts made by shared accounts, especially since they can controlled/deleted by anyone. A troll could just come in and edit/delete any of the posts. I guess I always thought of the shared accounts as being a thing until they get taken over by trolls, which I'm expecting at one point.

Next time, I'll just point it out in u/TrollDissection instead of this kind of action if users are feeling like it's controversial.

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selver wrote

It's not controversial, don't take shit from this random shared account. Feel free to delete trolls.

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ziq wrote

If they think removing spam is controversial they can use their regular account to say it. Throwaways don't have voting rights.

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retiredshared2 wrote

That's reasonable

A troll could just come in and edit/delete any of the posts. I guess I always thought of the shared accounts as being a thing until they get taken over by trolls, which I'm expecting at one point.

agreed, this should probably be discussed in detail somewhere

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ziq wrote

fuck voting to remove spam, that's never how raddle worked.

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ergdj5 wrote

spam doesn't include user genuine user comments

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ziq wrote

Define 'genuine user comments'? All I saw were the anon accounts calling me a liberal and upvoting each other.

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ziq wrote

Which would be fine if I had actually said something liberal, but I fucking hate 'national service' and was just trying to start a convo.

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ergdj5 wrote

suggesting national service has "benefits" is pretty liberal

I think it was also a little nod at how you call raddlers liberals for slipping up

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retiredshared2 wrote

it isn't a brigade either if those people were raddlers

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GrimWillow wrote

With the shared accounts, you can't even tell. I only deleted 2 things, and they were straight up shit-posts nonsensically dishing out insults based on the fact that the post was started someone they didn't like. It's not like ziq actually supports mandatory military draft, he's just asking a question...

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retiredshared2 wrote

there's been no formal vote on whether shared accounts come under this rule or not.

There has however been a formal vote on whether it is acceptable for admins to remove comments they think have been made by trolls, which was put down by ziq themself!!

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ziq wrote

What formal vote? This isn't pretend parliament - We appoint admins we trust to take care of spam like this. I'm not waiting 48 hours for everyone to vote about whether spam is spam when my thread is being hijacked to attack me again.

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retiredshared2 wrote (edited )

the votes in /f/meta

It isn't spam though, these are user comments and now you're only calling it spam to avoid the use of the word troll, which isn't mentioned in the tos

If you think trolling should be in the tos then perhaps you could raise that?

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ziq wrote

This isn't a tos issue. People abusing the anon accounts to engage in petty personal attacks, trolling and malicious disinfo don't get a right to 'democracy'.

Throwaways and anon accounts don't have voting rights in f/meta. If they're misusing the accounts, admins have all the leeway they need to put a stop to it.

The anon accounts are a privilege, not a right.

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selver wrote

The anon accounts shouldn't even be allowed to talk about meta issues here. Fuckin cowards.

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ziq wrote

Next time I'll just delete my whole thread and repost it.